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Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 03:20 AM Feb 20

'Watershed moment': Defense Secretary weighs firing generals - The 11th Hour - MSNBC



DOGE employees were seen at the Pentagon, as layoffs and cuts are expected at the agency. Abby Livington, Joel Payne, John Avlon and Paul Rieckhoff join. - Aired on 02/19/2025.
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'Watershed moment': Defense Secretary weighs firing generals - The 11th Hour - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Feb 20 OP
imagine being fired by a alcoholic talk show host rapist Skittles Feb 20 #1
And Hegseth's background story reveals a lot about their standards at Fox Rhiannon12866 Feb 20 #4
oh, he fit right in Skittles Feb 20 #7
Was it Lawrence O'Donnell who said that Hegseth wasn't even "prime time?" Rhiannon12866 Feb 20 #10
Firing Generals so we can YoshidaYui Feb 20 #2
This is not only unprecedented in our history, but it's horrifying Rhiannon12866 Feb 20 #3
Totally agree YoshidaYui Feb 20 #5
And no women. Rhiannon12866 Feb 20 #8
To get total control of the US military, you have to fire the experienced generals. Irish_Dem Feb 20 #6
Good point. Which was not bode well for the future of the U.S. military - or our defense Rhiannon12866 Feb 20 #9
The Putin goal is to seriously degrade the US military, the finest fighting force in the world. Irish_Dem Feb 20 #11
Which is terrifying, though Lawrence O'Donnell brought up the losses on each side in the Ukraine war Rhiannon12866 Feb 20 #12
The Russian losses have been staggering. Irish_Dem Feb 20 #13
And experienced generals who look out for their troops Rhiannon12866 Feb 20 #14
Yes this is why Putin wants Trump to degrade the US military. Irish_Dem Feb 20 #16
They certainly have during their invasion of Ukraine, yikes! Rhiannon12866 Feb 20 #17
It is the same when you talk to a regular Chinese person. Irish_Dem Feb 20 #18
Stalin did something like that in the 1930s Best_man23 Feb 20 #15

YoshidaYui

(43,621 posts)
2. Firing Generals so we can
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 03:36 AM
Feb 20

Have an all white military who swear their allegiance to Trump and not the Constitution and if he wants to send Troops to the Southern border to “ shoot Mexicans” they will gladly do whatever bidding Trump wants, a murder squad that will go down in history as a dark time period of this Country.

YoshidaYui

(43,621 posts)
5. Totally agree
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 03:41 AM
Feb 20

He will probably have some kind of general order that from now on its a “whites only Military “ .

Irish_Dem

(68,866 posts)
6. To get total control of the US military, you have to fire the experienced generals.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 03:42 AM
Feb 20

And put your lackeys in place, who will do your bidding.
No matter how illegal or immoral the orders are,

Irish_Dem

(68,866 posts)
11. The Putin goal is to seriously degrade the US military, the finest fighting force in the world.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 03:54 AM
Feb 20

The Chinese Army is huge, but inexperienced and poorly run.
The Russian military is not doing well at all.

So the US military must be weakened at all costs.

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
12. Which is terrifying, though Lawrence O'Donnell brought up the losses on each side in the Ukraine war
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 04:02 AM
Feb 20

And the Russian losses have been overwhelming. Any male of a certain age was expected to serve, and to avoid getting killed or disabled, many males have left the country if they could.

Irish_Dem

(68,866 posts)
13. The Russian losses have been staggering.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 04:09 AM
Feb 20

Typical of Russia to use the meat grinder approach to war, just keep sending it men to get the killed.

In contrast the US military uses strategy and planning to avoid a high death count.

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
14. And experienced generals who look out for their troops
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 04:15 AM
Feb 20

The very ones that TFG wants to "fire" - or worse, according to what he's said.

Irish_Dem

(68,866 posts)
16. Yes this is why Putin wants Trump to degrade the US military.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 09:06 AM
Feb 20

American generals save their troops and value them.
Russian generals see their troops as totally expendable.

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
17. They certainly have during their invasion of Ukraine, yikes!
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 09:29 AM
Feb 20

I feel terrible for the families. I may have mentioned this before, but I went to the USSR in the late '80s with my grandmother and her peace group who had a "sister town" there. And it was no exaggeration that the Russian people were dedicated to peace. We met with other peace groups, there were statues calling for peace and plaques dedicated to those who had been lost. They really suffered during WWII fought on their own land, there were even museums in the schools to teach the children so they'd never forget. And I still remember one older woman who had been a nurse during WWII who said "when you go home, please tell your president that we want peace." It looks like things have changed.

Irish_Dem

(68,866 posts)
18. It is the same when you talk to a regular Chinese person.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 09:35 AM
Feb 20

They just want to be able to raise their family and live their lives in peace.
Have a roof over their heads and food on the table.

Russia had by far the highest number of casualties in WWII, 27 million deaths.

Best_man23

(5,232 posts)
15. Stalin did something like that in the 1930s
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 09:00 AM
Feb 20

Perhaps the DUI hire should be told what happened after Russia did that. The leadership vacuum that resulted after Stalin's purge was one of the reasons the Nazis were able to run roughshod into Russia in the first year of direct conflict.

Here are the bios for the current Joint Chiefs and senior staff. I'm a little surprised the DUI hire didn't fire (or ask the Convicted Felon to fire) the Chairman on his first day as SecDef.

https://www.jcs.mil/leadership/biographies/

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