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TexasTowelie

(121,504 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:49 PM 15 hrs ago

JD Vance becomes international humiliation after Iran strike - Brian Tyler Cohen



Transcript (Edited to identify who is speaking):

JD Vance: i certainly empathize with Americans who
are exhausted after 25 years of foreign
entanglements in the Middle East i
understand the concern but the
difference is that back then we had dumb
presidents and now we have a president
who actually knows how to accomplish
America's national security objectives
so this is not going to be some long
drawn out thing we've got in we've done
the job of setting their nuclear program
back we're going to now work to
permanently dismantle that nuclear
program over the coming years and that
is what the president has set out to do
simple principle Iran can't have a
nuclear weapon that has animated
American policy over the past 130 days
it's going to continue to be a driving
force of our policy in the Middle East
for the next three and a half years plus.

BTC: oh nothing just the vice president of the
United States of America claiming that
the reason this Middle Eastern war is
different from decades of other Middle
Eastern wars is that the presidents who
got us into those wars were quote dumb
unlike this president with his enormous
brain and trillion point IQ and also his
definite total ability to be able to
spell the word parade i'm starting to
think that all of these Trump sick of
fans taking up collective residence in
his ass are depriving them of the oxygen
needed to not sound like a 14-year-old
boy oh and by the way does Vance truly
think that our former presidents were
dumb or is he just saying that because
part of being in the Trump cult is
dumbing down their own language so that
they can all sound just like the God
king because this was fans back in
September.

Vance: like you go back I mean look
there are some people I disagreed with i
mean hell I disagreed with a lot of
George W bush's foreign policies
obviously disagreed with a lot of Barack
Obama's foreign policies but these were
like fundamentally capable human beings.

BTC: right fundamentally capable human beings
which is so weird because he just said
that they were dumb so which is it are
they dumb JD or are you vance then says
"I certainly empathize with Americans
who are exhausted after 25 years of
foreign entanglements in the Middle
East." Yes because nothing says empathy
like perpetuating the exact thing that
they're exhausted from look I certainly
empathize that you're tired of being
punched in the face every day I explain
as I punch you in the face yet again
again you don't get to claim that you
understand everyone's exhaustion when
you are doing the thing that they're
exhausted from or I suppose you can but
it becomes abundantly clear that you are
full of vance goes on to say that
this president is finally one who
understands how to accomplish America's
national security objectives i should
probably remind you that before Donald
Trump decided that war was his only
option we had the JCPOA under the Obama
administration which was a nuclear
agreement from 2015 that aimed to limit
Iran's nuclear program in exchange for
sanctions relief and it was largely
successful but because it was enacted by
Obama Donald Trump tore it up again it's
not that it didn't work it's that Donald
Trump's ego was threatened by his
predecessor's success and he didn't want
any of his legacy to last here's Obama's
former National Security Council
spokesman Tommy Vietor explaining that
from our latest interview.

Tommy Vietor: he's a idiot i mean look in 2015 Obama cut a
deal with the Iranians called the JCPOA
the Iran nuclear agreement what that
deal did was prevent Iran from getting a
nuclear weapon it prevented them from uh
enriching uranium to a certain level
that can become weapons grade it forced
them to ship their uranium stockpile out
of the country and take a whole bunch of
additional steps that would prevent them
from getting a nuclear weapon or at
least greatly uh extend out the timeline
for which that it would take them to get
a nuclear weapon trump pulled us out of
that deal and then not long after Trump
pulled us out of the JCPOA Iran started
enriching uranium again they started
funneling more resources to their
proxies so all the terrible things that
we saw lead up to October 7th and to
lead to this moment where Iran had a
huge stockpile of enriched uranium are
the direct result of Trump's choice to
pull us out of the JCPOA so he is an
arsonist and now he wants credit for
being the firefighter if he goes and
bombs the Iranian infrastructure.

BTC: so again we had a functioning diplomatic
agreement without war but Trump's ego
was more important than our national
security and so now just five months
into his presidency we're at war because
Trump didn't want to let a black man's
legacy survive so when Vance claims that
Trump understands how to accomplish
America's national security objectives
please dear God explain to me how it's
in our interest to plunge the United
States into yet another war in the
Middle East i should remind you that the
last war in the Middle East lasted most
of my adult life cost $2 trillion and
countless American lives if we were
trying to do that again this is exactly
how we would do it which by the way is
something that I thought Donald Trump
was against what with all of his
campaign promises.

Trump (from multiple video clips): we're rebuilding our
military stronger than ever before and
we are not going to deplete it again on
stupid senseless endless wars world War
II has never been closer than it is
right now we need to clean house of all
of the warmongers and America last
globalists in the deep state i am the
president who delivers peace i was the
first president in decades who didn't
start a war but I stand here today and
I'm the only candidate who can make this
promise i will prevent and very easily
World War II very easily
these globalists want to squander all of
America's strength blood and treasure
chasing monsters and phantoms overseas
in addition there must also be a
complete commitment to dismantling the
entire globalist neocon establishment
that is perpetually dragging us into
endless wars pretending to fight for
freedom and democracy abroad.

BTC: but hey I
guess you don't need to lie anymore once
you've already gotten everyone's votes
am I right also on the this president
understands how to accomplish America's
national security objectives front there
is reporting today in the New York Times
that the strike didn't fully accomplish
the goal quote after overnight strikes
on Iran President Trump on Sunday
declared this operation a success and
said that Iran's nuclear enrichment
facilities were completely and totally
obliterated but his early public
pronouncements contrast with more
cautious assessments by the US and
Israeli militaries the Israeli military
in an initial analysis believes the
heavily fortified nuclear site at Fordo
has sustained serious damage from the
American strike on Sunday but has not
been completely destroyed according to
two Israeli officials with knowledge of
the matter the officials also said it
appeared Iran had moved equipment
including uranium from the site a senior
US official similarly acknowledged that
the American strike on the Fordo site
did not destroy the heavily fortified
facility but said the strike had
severely damaged it taking it off the
table the person noted that even 12
bunker busting bombs could not destroy
the site so yeah when Vance says that
only this president knows how to
accomplish America's national security
objectives perhaps it's a bit premature
to be spiking the football the reality
is that Vance is saying whatever he
needs to say to avoid the reality of the
situation which is that the US is now
inshed in yet another war in the Middle
East precisely the thing that this
administration this ticket vowed not to
do which is why we're going to see a
sustained campaign from these guys
insisting that we don't believe our
lying eyes like for example this moment
here.

Kristen Welker: question Mr vice President is the
United States now at war with Iran?
Vance: no Kristen we're not at war with Iran
we're at war with Iran's nuclear program
and let me just say Kristen that we're
incredibly grateful and proud of the
American Air Force pilots who did an
incredible job last night.

BTC: see we're not
at war with Iran we're simply at war
with Iran's nuclear program which is
located inside of Iran and run by the
Iranians kind of like how we didn't go
to war with Afghanistan and Iraq two
decades ago we were merely at war with
terror surely you guys believe that
right right so Vance and Trump and the
rest of these right-wing mouthpieces
will do their level best to spin because
their whole goal here is to manipulate
you into thinking that they didn't just
break their campaign promise not to
plunge the US into yet another costly
Middle Eastern war but we've been here
before these guys can pretend that
dropping bombs is a sign of peace but
we're all smart enough to know better.
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JD Vance becomes international humiliation after Iran strike - Brian Tyler Cohen (Original Post) TexasTowelie 15 hrs ago OP
JD Vance said this in 2016: sop 14 hrs ago #1
When I see Vance I just see a bag of shit with a beard. dgauss 14 hrs ago #2
LOL!!! yes, dgauss some_of_us_are_sane 13 hrs ago #5
It's not really a beard. Mr. Evil 12 hrs ago #7
Now I finally understand what I've been seeing. dgauss 12 hrs ago #8
Yup. Mr. Evil 12 hrs ago #9
Stable genius trump told JD kacekwl 14 hrs ago #3
The next time I see him, I want him tarted-up... BurnDoubt 13 hrs ago #4
That would only be fair some_of_us_are_sane 13 hrs ago #6

sop

(14,812 posts)
1. JD Vance said this in 2016:
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 07:13 PM
14 hrs ago

"But I'm not surprised by Trump's rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame. We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect. I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler."

Mr. Evil

(3,319 posts)
7. It's not really a beard.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:32 PM
12 hrs ago

It's that moldy fuzz that usually grows on a pile of shit that's festering in the wind.

kacekwl

(8,383 posts)
3. Stable genius trump told JD
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 07:46 PM
14 hrs ago

it will only last two weeks. Dummy smoky eye Vance believes him.

BurnDoubt

(643 posts)
4. The next time I see him, I want him tarted-up...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 08:31 PM
13 hrs ago

in combat fatigues and stepping into a chopper to engage the enemy. Until then he should sit down, shut up, and wait for the First Traitor to die. It's their war. They should be the first to die. Back your bet with MEAT. Show your level of Commitment by showing up. Don't let someone else's children pay your debt. LEAD THE CHARGE!

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