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Ocelot II

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12. They might have found some interstate connection that could confer federal jurisdiction,

Reply to rzemanfl (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 16, 2025, 01:00 PM

Jun 16

just like the interstate stalking charges against Luigi Mangione. And the more I think about it, the more I actually like it. Trump has a hard-on for death penalty cases, and he's not likely to stop this one. Anyhow, the local US attorney would have already been told to stand down if Old Yam Tits had a problem with it. The state will certainly proceed with state murder charges, and there's no double jeopardy because of the dual sovereignty principle, so no pardon. If Boelter has the book thrown at him from more than one direction, fine. I do oppose the death penalty, but that might be negotiable in a plea deal.

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Here's my take. The DOJ's case against the Minnesota shooter will go first- [View all] rzemanfl Jun 16 OP

He Will Get Off Deep State Witch Jun 16 #1

I don't think that will happen. The federal statute says Ocelot II Jun 16 #2

They are saying on the news that the DOJ is charging him with murder. rzemanfl Jun 16 #4

That would lose him more votes than gain. efhmc Jun 16 #5

Do you think TSF gives a flying fuck about votes? rzemanfl Jun 16 #7

Even if he did pardon, State can still charge/try/convict. Double Jeopardy DOES NOT ATTACH under hlthe2b Jun 16 #10

He'll get convicted, although some MAGA rubes will cheer him. Silent Type Jun 16 #3

The Trump DOJ appears to be charging him, rzemanfl Jun 16 #6

Doubt they'll have any trouble coming up with charges for this guy. Silent Type Jun 16 #11

They might have found some interstate connection that could confer federal jurisdiction, Ocelot II Jun 16 #12

I am from Wisconsin which has never had a death penalty. rzemanfl Jun 16 #14

Minnesota doesn't either, but some federal crimes provide for it. Ocelot II Jun 16 #16

I lost my train of thought on the death penalty comment. rzemanfl Jun 16 #17

Double jeopardy won't attach because of the dual sovereignty exception. Ocelot II Jun 16 #8

Thank you! Of course, Roe v. Wade was precedent too. rzemanfl Jun 16 #9

The Separate Sovereigns principle applies NutmegYankee Jun 16 #13

Thank you. I have been reminded of this, assuming that sometime between 1968 and 1971, rzemanfl Jun 16 #15