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Sympthsical

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39. I do not vote identity. I vote policy.

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:44 PM

Jun 23

These are public servants. They are not celebrities, and I am bored stiff by people who behave more like fans than citizens.

There are people who think if the identity is diverse, then the policies will be. Well, we have sufficient experience by 2025 to know that politicians of different gender and racial identities will happily play ball with monied interests and the status quo just as easily and readily as any white male.

I am interested in ideas.

Remember when President Obama quite infamously said, "I am the change!" when asked what changes he intended to bring in policy?

Identity is not policy. It is not a qualification. It is not telling me what you want to do differently. It does not explain to me why I should trust you with power. If I voted strictly on identity, I'd be voting for every LGBT candidate who came along.

I do not do that either.

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CA-GOV: Harris gives California governor's race a serious look [View all] RandySF Jun 23 OP

Our nation's loss is California's gain. W_HAMILTON Jun 23 #1

And, Why Not.. if that's what Kamala Harris Cha Jun 23 #2

Katie Porter will drop out of the race if VP Harris runs. Celerity Jun 23 #3

NO SSJVegeta Jun 23 #4

Why? Auggie Jun 23 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author SSJVegeta Jun 23 #6

It doesn't work that way obamanut2012 Jun 23 #11

It would if we were more of a democracy SSJVegeta Jun 23 #13

Sounds like you want it dictated RandySF Jun 23 #20

Actually I think I prefer Harris SSJVegeta Jun 23 #22

It literally doesn't work that way -- you seem to want it to NOT be fair obamanut2012 Jun 23 #42

Porter has signaled she will drop out of the race if Harris runs SSJVegeta Jun 23 #48

Kamala might be the better candidate Renew Deal Jun 23 #15

Agreed. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #17

I also saw somehwhere how Porter will drop out if Harris wins SSJVegeta Jun 23 #25

Porter also had her chance. She got third in the statewide Senate race. tinrobot Jun 23 #21

Fair point. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #26

I like her but Porter made a terrible misstep. I hope she re-ignites her political career and maybe the coming Midterms OnDoutside Jun 23 #28

What do you think her misstep was? SSJVegeta Jun 23 #29

I thought she should have stayed in the House and continued to do what she was garnering great kudos for, holding OnDoutside Jun 23 #30

I think youre right. Might be tough to come back from that. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #31

Yes, I can't imagine she made too many friends, which is a pity because she is so clever. OnDoutside Jun 23 #34

So women running for office only get one shot? mcar Jun 23 #35

Thats a weird interpretation SSJVegeta Jun 23 #37

That si what you said, though -- since she's already held state offices, too bad obamanut2012 Jun 23 #43

What I clarified with is what I intended to say. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #45

Why does Porter get a second shot at holding office mcar Jun 23 #46

Where the heck did i say she should be banned from running?? SSJVegeta Jun 23 #47

You deleted your statement so I can't refer to it mcar Jun 23 #49

Yeah I deleted it cause people seemed to get the wrong idea from it. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #50

If Katie Porter wants her chance, she'll have to earn it calguy Jun 23 #38

Maybe. I dont know. SSJVegeta Jun 23 #7

I live here, yes obamanut2012 Jun 23 #10

We need whoever can win CA kkmarie Jun 23 #8

Literally any Democrat will win California these days Sympthsical Jun 23 #18

do you think a Black woman is not capable of taking us in a new direction? cadoman Jun 23 #23

Very fair point OnDoutside Jun 23 #27

Sorry I don't vote solely based on a candidate's race or gender fujiyamasan Jun 23 #32

Winsome Sears is a clinically insane, KKK apologist, school shooter in the making cadoman Jun 24 #55

Hence my point fujiyamasan Jun 24 #66

I do not vote identity. I vote policy. Sympthsical Jun 23 #39

if a Black woman can't be elected as Governor in the most Democratic state in the country... cadoman Jun 24 #54

She would be elected if she ran. So what's your argument? Sympthsical Jun 24 #56

I love Kamala! I love Katie! kkmarie Jun 23 #9

As a Californian, it seemed like it was always Schiff's to lose. tinrobot Jun 23 #24

I agree Unwind Your Mind Jun 24 #61

Oh Jesus help us Prairie Gates Jun 23 #12

What do you mean by that? mcar Jun 23 #36

As a Californian, I hope she runs, sorry you don't like her obamanut2012 Jun 23 #40

She should do it Renew Deal Jun 23 #14

Nope Sympthsical Jun 23 #16

Also my state, and I hope she runs obamanut2012 Jun 23 #41

And nothing will change Sympthsical Jun 23 #44

Weren't you just up further in this thread saying you vote for policy and not identity? W_HAMILTON Jun 24 #62

Status quo is a description of policy Sympthsical Jun 24 #63

CA Prominence Starbeach Jun 23 #19

I really hope she decides against it fujiyamasan Jun 23 #33

Oh, okay MorbidButterflyTat Jun 23 #51

Would governor be a step down from the VP spot? Bayard Jun 23 #52

Would governor be a step down from the VP spot? Bayard Jun 23 #53

John Quincy Adams served in the House after being President Kaleva Jun 24 #57

I did not know that Bayard Jun 24 #58

One of the very few presidents to do something like that Kaleva Jun 24 #60

No, we are the 4th largest economy in the world, too obamanut2012 Jun 24 #59

if it's a step down it's a very small one cadoman Jun 24 #64

From VP SocialDemocrat61 Jun 24 #65