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fujiyamasan

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70. Yes, with Obama it always felt like a steady hand at the wheel

Wed Jul 2, 2025, 02:28 AM

Jul 2

He embodied the best characteristics of leadership. He showed a rare sense of maturity, calmness and never any petty outbursts or wtf moments.

I’m not going to say I agreed with ever policy of his, but I could respect the thought process behind them.

Clinton was the first president I paid attention to. He was elected when I was in middle school and he was definitely a big contrast to Bush, both in terms of his relative youth and his ability to relate to everyday people (anyone remember Bush scanning groceries???). Those were probably the peak years in terms of US global power and respect. It all went downhill with Bush. Obama did a lot to repair the US global reputation after but people still forget the lasting damage the Iraq war did to the entire region.

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Joe Biden is NOT 'The Greatest President in my Lifetime' [View all] speak easy Jul 1 OP

Gracious. H2O Man Jul 1 #1

At times liked this, grace is more than a luxury. speak easy Jul 1 #5

On various internet sites, H2O Man Jul 1 #12

JFK did not prevent a nuclear war. He almost CAUSED one. NNadir Jul 1 #31

Since you didn't mention him, where do you rank Obama in that list? Polybius Jul 1 #56

Highly, of course, close, if not equal, to Truman, the 2nd greatest President of the 20th century. NNadir Jul 2 #71

You are welcome H2O Man Jul 1 #58

The US missiles in Turkey were obsolete, and intended for removal anyway.... Jack Valentino Jul 2 #62

Right. H2O Man Jul 2 #68

Yeah. Jack Valentino Jul 2 #69

This is a guy who watched King's "I have a dream speech" a few blocks away on television, afraid it would cost him.... NNadir Jul 2 #72

I think you're right about suceeding in everything but the most important detail. harumph Jul 1 #23

"I've read Joe Biden was the greatest president in my lifetime far too many times." LudwigPastorius Jul 2 #61

Other than the Vietnam War, speak easy Jul 2 #67

But he is for many that are younger Bev54 Jul 1 #2

I like Joe Biden, but Barack Obama tops him in several ways. MineralMan Jul 1 #3

I'm with you on JFK and Obama. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 1 #4

I agree. I love Obama and Michelle even more now that they're gone from the WH. CTyankee Jul 1 #48

Jimmy Carter too. n/t garybeck Jul 1 #51

Agree 100% still-prayin4rain Jul 1 #54

Milquetoast Garland is why Trump was never brought to justice Chasstev365 Jul 1 #6

Pick your preferred AG Fiendish Thingy Jul 1 #15

And the SCROTUS Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 1 #17

Absolutely Chasstev365 Jul 1 #18

Seeing what Trump is doing I have come to that conclusion myself. Autumn Jul 1 #7

I vote for Obama. doc03 Jul 1 #8

FDR was president when I was born. But, I think Jimmy Carter is the most dercent president of my liffetime. Ping Tung Jul 1 #9

Most decent, certainly Polybius Jul 1 #57

Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights, Medicaid, Medicare, Ed Act, Job Corps, etc., in a few short years is hard to beat. Silent Type Jul 1 #10

All with a Democratic super majority mcar Jul 1 #33

I think when you factor in racist Dixiecrats, Johnson really didn't have a super majority. Silent Type Jul 1 #37

Yes, some people fail to remember that LBJ had... LudwigPastorius Jul 2 #66

We could use an LBJ type these days. BannonsLiver Jul 1 #11

Unfortunately only FDR stopped the rising tides of Fascism in America delisen Jul 1 #16

Not my point. BannonsLiver Jul 1 #24

It took only five months for Trump to destroy Biden's legacy. dalton99a Jul 1 #13

LBJ was fortunate to have a supermajority in the senate IIRC Fiendish Thingy Jul 1 #14

GODDAM IT. Let's fight over Joe Biden instead of fighting maga treachery. Indivisble has action items, TODAY usonian Jul 1 #19

I would venture to say that discussing our former president on a message board Autumn Jul 1 #21

There are 24 hours in a day. No more, no less. usonian Jul 1 #34

A resistance movement with no power, no media, no journalists, no leaders Autumn Jul 1 #38

And let's waste our time fighting over Mamdani (sarcasm) choie Jul 1 #28

A historical side note: Brother Buzz Jul 1 #20

A historical side side note: usonian Jul 1 #32

That's a Buck branded knife, not a buckhorn knife Brother Buzz Jul 1 #49

I am not a knife afficionado. My parents didn't want me to do any harm (mainly to myself) so no knifes until later. usonian Jul 1 #50

Sy Sperling was the greatest President in the last 50 years Jose Garcia Jul 1 #22

And what made him great, was that he was also a client! Intractable Jul 1 #27

LBJ great? milestogo Jul 1 #25

It was mixed. guns and butter, but we lost 60,000 Americans in a war based on the gulf of tonkin LIE. lostincalifornia Jul 1 #29

Kennedy was de-escalating and he-re-escalated. milestogo Jul 1 #39

You are not going to get an argument from me. Whether he would have done a withdral or not is subject to lostincalifornia Jul 1 #41

Does anyone believe regardless of what Biden or Garland did that this supreme court would have allowed lostincalifornia Jul 1 #26

That doesn't mean you don't do everything you can choie Jul 1 #30

They did go after him. Maybe not as quickly as you would have liked, but when they did, lostincalifornia Jul 1 #35

Yes I do recall Jack Smith's appointment. choie Jul 1 #36

At the end of the day, those who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016 by either voting third party or not voting lostincalifornia Jul 1 #40

It wasn't Rebl2 Jul 1 #42

Joe nominated Garland. speak easy Jul 1 #43

Biden should have prosecuted Trump and his goons when he had the chance. Initech Jul 1 #44

Presidents are not prosecutors. totodeinhere Jul 2 #65

Does bring about a good question... Clinton vs Obama WarGamer Jul 1 #45

Yes, with Obama it always felt like a steady hand at the wheel fujiyamasan Jul 2 #70

Clinton BEST in my lifetime ... Raine Jul 1 #46

Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch. The House and Senate did that. Okay? It was not Biden's failure. Hekate Jul 1 #47

He is in my lifetime JustAnotherGen Jul 1 #52

Trashing this Captain Zero Jul 1 #53

I wasn't around for LBJ Polybius Jul 1 #55

Obama was better than both of them Renew Deal Jul 1 #59

That was ONE failure, YES. The OTHER was the failure to restrain Israel in GAZA... Jack Valentino Jul 1 #60

Joe Biden might not have been 'the greatest president in my lifetime', either, Jack Valentino Jul 2 #63

President Biden's "biggest failure" was being a better man than he replaced!--- Jack Valentino Jul 2 #64

Vietnam was no small thing Martin Eden Jul 2 #73

If I live to see it, the greatest president in my lifetime... OneGrassRoot Jul 2 #74