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hlthe2b

(111,403 posts)
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 02:47 PM 14 hrs ago

I just want to add a comment to those thinking the voting marital name change issue is not a problem [View all]

Last edited Tue Sep 23, 2025, 06:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Applegrove detailed this in previous posts yesterday, and a couple of posters poopooed what an issue this was for those women who took their husband's surname in marriage and now potentially had to provide a birth certificate to vote. Several said it was free to get one and that it was "no big deal."

Well, that was infuriating, I'm sure, to Applegrove as it was to me. My own father cautioned me about ever changing my last name as I pursued my goals and career as a female professional, so this does not directly impact me, but I know what a horrendous issue it will be for those for whom it does!

So, to those few who downplayed the issue, let me tell you what my state of birth just charged me (my birth certificate was destroyed in a moving incident several years ago, and I needed to order one for my late passport renewal):

Birth Certificate hlthe2b
State Vital Statistics Fee: $40.00
VitalCheck Fee: $15.00
USAIR $21.00 (no, I am not in a hurry for it, but this is the only tracked, insured, and guaranteed/recommended method of shipping)
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Total: $76.00


Free my a..s! And for the continuing poopooers who insist birth certificates are free, well, the VitalCheck system is a required 50-state online system to ensure you are who you say you are in requesting said birth certificate. The expensive shipping method is the only guaranteed method that works against efforts to steal them through rigorous tracking and insurance. And the cost of a birth certificate varies by state. My state of birth happens to be one of the more costly, I understand that most are closer to $20.


SO, yeah... Making women incur this time and expense in order to continue voting--even if they have a decades-long voting history/registration IS A DAMNED BIG DEAL!

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Kick SheltieLover 14 hrs ago #1
It is a BIG DEAL! EarthAbides 14 hrs ago #2
I still have the name I was born with Grim Chieftain 13 hrs ago #19
for the short time I was married in the 1980s, barbtries 11 hrs ago #102
So do I! calimary 5 hrs ago #138
Great story Grim Chieftain 4 hrs ago #139
And it's a BIGGER deal than a birth certificate. pnwmom 11 hrs ago #94
I have been married twice oberle 6 hrs ago #137
At least till Congress requires it is the bottom line. And if it takes months to gather your documents, pnwmom 3 hrs ago #141
My maga sister is one of those who stupidly says it is no big deal. Not to her, she is rich. Trueblue1968 14 hrs ago #3
It costs money and takes time, too. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #4
Every obstacle to make it harder to vote ... now who would that benefit ... I wonder who .... Could it be .... eppur_se_muova 14 hrs ago #5
Same thing, different name. soldierant 12 hrs ago #88
Thank you. Solly Mack 14 hrs ago #6
applegrove's post was about needing to get a marriage certificate... SickOfTheOnePct 14 hrs ago #7
She also discussed the voting issue. Are you claiming I am lying? You need the birth certificate hlthe2b 13 hrs ago #8
No, I'm not claiming that you're lying... SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #11
Women have to have both! EarthAbides 13 hrs ago #22
Yes, for some things they do SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #24
It is definitely a tax on women. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #29
Where are women required to have a birth certificate to vote? SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #31
I just can't anymore. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #40
Not sure why... SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #47
That's the subject of this thread. What have you been reading? Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #51
And yet... SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #52
Because you couldn't possibly google or keep up: House GOP tramples on women's rights with passage of SAVE Act hlthe2b 12 hrs ago #53
I'm well aware of the SAVE Act... SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #55
And you think those affected will have the time to react if it is signed/enacted? hlthe2b 12 hrs ago #57
Which seven Democratic Senators ... SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #61
They are clearly delaying to the last minute to ensure women have no chance to respond... hlthe2b 12 hrs ago #64
I do care about women being disenfranchised... SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #70
MEN do not change their name to their wife's. IT IS about women. Good gawd. hlthe2b 12 hrs ago #75
Under the SAVE Act... SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #84
How many House Democrats did you think were going to vote to honor Charlie Kirk? Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #73
NO. It absolutely does NOT. Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #69
Sorry, what "absolutely does NOT"? SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #72
You really just need to go read it. Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #74
I actually did... SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #89
Because it hasn't passed the Senate yet. They are likely waiting till close to Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #54
Exactly. They want to pass/enact it at last minute to prevent women from having the chance hlthe2b 12 hrs ago #60
I seriously can't deal with this anymore. We are actually needing to defend the idea that this is not a good thing. Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #67
One might wonder why they are on DU... hlthe2b 11 hrs ago #99
I'm absolutely sure what you're talking about... SickOfTheOnePct 11 hrs ago #108
And you missed the fact that, in practice, many women will need to provide both. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #121
You seem to miss the point of what the birth certificate requirement is for SickOfTheOnePct 9 hrs ago #126
Have a lovely evening. Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #127
It will not pass Wiz Imp 12 hrs ago #82
Hope not. But I didn't think House Democrats would vote to honor Kirk. Scrivener7 12 hrs ago #85
I'm not trying to downplay it but the majority of women would not be impacted immediately. Wiz Imp 11 hrs ago #110
How many women moved, changed their name or changed party registration last year? Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #114
Somebody needs to look up the word downplay and perhaps rewrite their title. Ilikepurple 9 hrs ago #129
You're sure Republicans won't get rid of the filibuster to assure they stay in power? SunSeeker 11 hrs ago #90
Yes. I'm sure Republicans will not get rid of the filibuster just for this. Wiz Imp 11 hrs ago #106
No. You're not sure. You're no more sure of that than people were sure Roe v. Wade would hold. Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #115
Yes I am sure. I'd stake my life savings on it. It WILL NOT HAPPEN Wiz Imp 10 hrs ago #122
OK. So you've informed us bout your infallibility, and about the fact that you are OK with Democratic citizens Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #123
Amazing. You misrepresented every single thing I said. Wiz Imp 9 hrs ago #128
Not required in Kansas............ Bengus81 12 hrs ago #76
YET. This is about the Federal SAVE ACT. Google or head upstream. hlthe2b 11 hrs ago #100
SAVE act requires a birth certificate to vote if you legally changed your name... haele 11 hrs ago #98
It's A Tax RobinA 11 hrs ago #105
Regarding marriage certificates... SickOfTheOnePct 11 hrs ago #109
I've been amazed at the Democratic/left pooh-poohing on this issue since the early push for RealID for voting Ms. Toad 13 hrs ago #9
Boy, that's some serious poll taxing. ananda 13 hrs ago #10
I'm not aware of any states that require a birth certificate to vote SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #14
Have you missed the weeks of discussion of the RW attempts to do so? hlthe2b 13 hrs ago #17
I'm aware that a number of Republican states are trying... SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #18
Perhaps you could Google the question. mgardener 12 hrs ago #62
It's up to the people making the claims... SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #63
This requirement for women to prove their maiden name is exactly that. It requires a birth certificate to vote. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #30
What requirement for women to prove their maiden name in order to vote? n/t SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #32
I'll bet 50-75% of men don't have a clue where their BC is. I had to buy one years ago Bengus81 12 hrs ago #79
+1 leftstreet 13 hrs ago #15
So glad I never changed my name. Coventina 13 hrs ago #12
The old style birth certificates that I got in the early 'seventies from the county courthouse... hunter 13 hrs ago #13
Yeah... I still have that one, but it was refused. Irritating as hell. hlthe2b 13 hrs ago #21
A few years ago I had to get birth certificates for different relatives across 3 different states ClaudetteCC 13 hrs ago #28
It is definitely a misogynist move. Most of us do change our names at marriage... Hekate 13 hrs ago #16
I changed my legal name to my maiden and married name when I got married kimbutgar 13 hrs ago #20
Isn't it standard practice to already have copies of one's birth certificate on hand? Kaleva 13 hrs ago #23
Kindly reread my OP and that of Hunter (#13). Certainly not the RW MAGA to blame for hlthe2b 13 hrs ago #26
Gosh. I had to replace my birth certificate because my mother lost mine. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #33
LOL...I've been voting in Kansas since 1972 and a BC has never been required. Bengus81 12 hrs ago #80
But shouldn't everyone, men and women, have copies of their birth certificate? Kaleva 13 hrs ago #34
Real ID has a number of options. You can do it without a birth certificates. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #35
True but since I had my birth certificate, I used that Kaleva 13 hrs ago #37
That's nice. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #43
Only if your current driver's license was obtained with documents proving your full legal name Ms. Toad 11 hrs ago #91
Based on everything I've read, you need a proof of identity to get a Real ID Wiz Imp 11 hrs ago #97
Blame women....Blame poor women. especially after I detailed the $76 it cost me to replace mine hlthe2b 13 hrs ago #41
We have a full set of vital docs... SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #42
You know they're not free, right? leftstreet 13 hrs ago #48
More Highly ENTITLED... hlthe2b 12 hrs ago #50
If Someone Says It's No Big Deal modrepub 13 hrs ago #25
just went through this - dont forget the notary fee for the document Vitalchek needs +$20 TalenaGor 13 hrs ago #27
You don't need vitalcheck if you go in person or use mail Kaleva 13 hrs ago #39
For gawd's sakes. What percentage of this nations' women live in the state of their birth hlthe2b 12 hrs ago #49
gotcha - I live in a differnt state now so I didnt have much of a choice lol TalenaGor 11 hrs ago #96
Some people have different situations than you. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #120
It's a BIG DEAL proud patriot 13 hrs ago #36
But the Stepford MAGAs will be ok with it IbogaProject 13 hrs ago #38
Hell. It appears some here are just fine with it. Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #45
They will fail. Fiendish Thingy 13 hrs ago #44
"Roe v. Wade will never fall." "No Democratic House member would ever vote to honor Kirk." Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #119
It IS a big deal sdfernando 13 hrs ago #46
K&R. I didn't see the original thread, but I think some of its poo-poo overflowed Torchlight 12 hrs ago #56
My BC copy was $47.50 through the same service. CrispyQ 12 hrs ago #58
I am 77 years old and have never changed my name. PoindexterOglethorpe 12 hrs ago #59
There is a lot of social pressure in many communities for a woman to change her name. hunter 11 hrs ago #93
I lived in Minneapolis in the early years of my marriage. PoindexterOglethorpe 4 hrs ago #140
Just deal with it. Maru Kitteh 12 hrs ago #65
Seems to be the attitude--even among quite a few (male, I assume) DUers on this thread hlthe2b 12 hrs ago #66
And my favorite: "Well, it wouldn't be an issue for ME, so it isn't an issue!" Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #113
I recall an article about a poor man in Wisconsin who kept driving to Chicago repeatedly to get his birth certificate lostnfound 12 hrs ago #68
Isn't it amazing how prevalent gaslighting is here? littlemissmartypants 12 hrs ago #71
Also sealioning! Also dismissing! Also misinformation! It's a bonanza of obnoxiousness! Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #116
Birth certificates have never been free synni 12 hrs ago #77
Using "never" is really silly. Some states DID and all or nearly all DO. But that isn't the point hlthe2b 11 hrs ago #101
Many years Rebl2 12 hrs ago #78
Poll Tax PurgedVoter 12 hrs ago #81
as an adoptee mokeyz 12 hrs ago #83
I have another complex paper trail TommyT139 11 hrs ago #95
your dad did you a solid Skittles 12 hrs ago #86
In Ohio if there were multiple marriages Hope22 12 hrs ago #87
Much ado about nothing Gimpyknee 11 hrs ago #92
Kick SheltieLover 11 hrs ago #103
I have ForgedCrank 11 hrs ago #104
yeah. None of this is a big deal to men... hlthe2b 11 hrs ago #107
Those are ForgedCrank 10 hrs ago #117
You aren't even responding to the issues on this thread. Not having read any of it, obviously. hlthe2b 8 hrs ago #133
Ok ForgedCrank 8 hrs ago #134
Last Name voting issue ms.pamela 11 hrs ago #111
Most of us (at lest the majority women on this thread know). The men mostlly have shown they hlthe2b 11 hrs ago #112
I'm amazed at the energy used to downplay this marginalization tactic. Ilikepurple 10 hrs ago #118
The clear message here is that if a bunch of women lose the right to vote, it's no big deal. Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #124
This will discourage women from taking their husband's names when they marry. milestogo 9 hrs ago #125
It's a total pain in the ass for women who Warpy 8 hrs ago #130
Thanks hil. I deleted. Then I thought better of it, came across applegrove 8 hrs ago #131
Thank you JustAnotherGen 8 hrs ago #132
Then there's this character. Totally Tunsie 7 hrs ago #135
NH libertarians passed this Tesha 6 hrs ago #136
Don't get me started róisín_dubh 3 hrs ago #142
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