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ForgedCrank

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117. Those are

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 06:24 PM

19 hrs ago

not my words, they are from my wife, who happens to be a woman.
And my wife is also not stupid.
In addition, losing your BC has nothing to do with name changes nor a conspiracy by men to extract money from women so they can vote. You lost your document. I, as well as my wife, have our original BC and the cost is zero for not losing it.
I am a man and I had to show these documents to rec a real ID. I have to show documents all the time for various government and financial interactions.
Sounds to me like you are mad that losing your BC will result in government charging you for a replacement. Well, I agree. But that has nothing to do with a wide conspiracy by men to deny you anything. If I lost mine, guess what? I'd have to pay the same fees.

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I just want to add a comment to those thinking the voting marital name change issue is not a problem [View all] hlthe2b 22 hrs ago OP

Kick SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #1

It is a BIG DEAL! EarthAbides 22 hrs ago #2

I still have the name I was born with Grim Chieftain 22 hrs ago #19

for the short time I was married in the 1980s, barbtries 19 hrs ago #102

So do I! calimary 13 hrs ago #138

Great story Grim Chieftain 13 hrs ago #139

And it's a BIGGER deal than a birth certificate. pnwmom 20 hrs ago #94

I have been married twice oberle 14 hrs ago #137

At least till Congress requires it is the bottom line. And if it takes months to gather your documents, pnwmom 12 hrs ago #141

Which is the point. pandr32 1 hr ago #159

Slightly off-topic but those documents can also VTderry 4 hrs ago #150

My maga sister is one of those who stupidly says it is no big deal. Not to her, she is rich. Trueblue1968 22 hrs ago #3

It costs money and takes time, too. MineralMan 22 hrs ago #4

Every obstacle to make it harder to vote ... now who would that benefit ... I wonder who .... Could it be .... eppur_se_muova 22 hrs ago #5

Same thing, different name. soldierant 20 hrs ago #88

Thank you. Solly Mack 22 hrs ago #6

applegrove's post was about needing to get a marriage certificate... SickOfTheOnePct 22 hrs ago #7

She also discussed the voting issue. Are you claiming I am lying? You need the birth certificate hlthe2b 22 hrs ago #8

No, I'm not claiming that you're lying... SickOfTheOnePct 22 hrs ago #11

Women have to have both! EarthAbides 21 hrs ago #22

Yes, for some things they do SickOfTheOnePct 21 hrs ago #24

It is definitely a tax on women. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #29

Where are women required to have a birth certificate to vote? SickOfTheOnePct 21 hrs ago #31

I just can't anymore. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #40

Not sure why... SickOfTheOnePct 21 hrs ago #47

That's the subject of this thread. What have you been reading? Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #51

And yet... SickOfTheOnePct 21 hrs ago #52

Because you couldn't possibly google or keep up: House GOP tramples on women's rights with passage of SAVE Act hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #53

I'm well aware of the SAVE Act... SickOfTheOnePct 21 hrs ago #55

And you think those affected will have the time to react if it is signed/enacted? hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #57

Which seven Democratic Senators ... SickOfTheOnePct 20 hrs ago #61

They are clearly delaying to the last minute to ensure women have no chance to respond... hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #64

I do care about women being disenfranchised... SickOfTheOnePct 20 hrs ago #70

MEN do not change their name to their wife's. IT IS about women. Good gawd. hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #75

Under the SAVE Act... SickOfTheOnePct 20 hrs ago #84

How many House Democrats did you think were going to vote to honor Charlie Kirk? Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #73

Did you believe that Roe vs Wade could never be overturned? Or the Voting Rights Act be gutted? The GOP ... Hekate 31 min ago #163

NO. It absolutely does NOT. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #69

Sorry, what "absolutely does NOT"? SickOfTheOnePct 20 hrs ago #72

You really just need to go read it. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #74

I actually did... SickOfTheOnePct 20 hrs ago #89

Because it hasn't passed the Senate yet. They are likely waiting till close to Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #54

Exactly. They want to pass/enact it at last minute to prevent women from having the chance hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #60

I seriously can't deal with this anymore. We are actually needing to defend the idea that this is not a good thing. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #67

One might wonder why they are on DU... hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #99

I'm absolutely sure what you're talking about... SickOfTheOnePct 19 hrs ago #108

And you missed the fact that, in practice, many women will need to provide both. Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #121

You seem to miss the point of what the birth certificate requirement is for SickOfTheOnePct 17 hrs ago #126

Have a lovely evening. Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #127

It will not pass Wiz Imp 20 hrs ago #82

Hope not. But I didn't think House Democrats would vote to honor Kirk. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #85

I'm not trying to downplay it but the majority of women would not be impacted immediately. Wiz Imp 19 hrs ago #110

How many women moved, changed their name or changed party registration last year? Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #114

Somebody needs to look up the word downplay and perhaps rewrite their title. Ilikepurple 17 hrs ago #129

You're sure Republicans won't get rid of the filibuster to assure they stay in power? SunSeeker 20 hrs ago #90

Yes. I'm sure Republicans will not get rid of the filibuster just for this. Wiz Imp 19 hrs ago #106

No. You're not sure. You're no more sure of that than people were sure Roe v. Wade would hold. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #115

Yes I am sure. I'd stake my life savings on it. It WILL NOT HAPPEN Wiz Imp 18 hrs ago #122

OK. So you've informed us bout your infallibility, and about the fact that you are OK with Democratic citizens Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #123

Amazing. You misrepresented every single thing I said. Wiz Imp 17 hrs ago #128

I, too, suspect it will not pass crimycarny 47 min ago #161

Thank you for understanding the point. Wiz Imp 22 min ago #164

Not required in Kansas............ Bengus81 20 hrs ago #76

YET. This is about the Federal SAVE ACT. Google or head upstream. hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #100

SAVE act requires a birth certificate to vote if you legally changed your name... haele 20 hrs ago #98

It's A Tax RobinA 19 hrs ago #105

Regarding marriage certificates... SickOfTheOnePct 19 hrs ago #109

I've read your post four times and I still can't make sense of it. yardwork 5 hrs ago #145

I apologize if what I said wasn't clear SickOfTheOnePct 3 hrs ago #153

Its a tax on women if women need a birth certificate to vote MadameButterfly 5 hrs ago #147

I agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct 3 hrs ago #154

I've been amazed at the Democratic/left pooh-poohing on this issue since the early push for RealID for voting Ms. Toad 22 hrs ago #9

Boy, that's some serious poll taxing. ananda 22 hrs ago #10

I'm not aware of any states that require a birth certificate to vote SickOfTheOnePct 22 hrs ago #14

Have you missed the weeks of discussion of the RW attempts to do so? hlthe2b 22 hrs ago #17

I'm aware that a number of Republican states are trying... SickOfTheOnePct 22 hrs ago #18

Perhaps you could Google the question. mgardener 20 hrs ago #62

It's up to the people making the claims... SickOfTheOnePct 20 hrs ago #63

This requirement for women to prove their maiden name is exactly that. It requires a birth certificate to vote. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #30

What requirement for women to prove their maiden name in order to vote? n/t SickOfTheOnePct 21 hrs ago #32

I'll bet 50-75% of men don't have a clue where their BC is. I had to buy one years ago Bengus81 20 hrs ago #79

+1 leftstreet 22 hrs ago #15

So glad I never changed my name. Coventina 22 hrs ago #12

The old style birth certificates that I got in the early 'seventies from the county courthouse... hunter 22 hrs ago #13

Yeah... I still have that one, but it was refused. Irritating as hell. hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #21

A few years ago I had to get birth certificates for different relatives across 3 different states ClaudetteCC 21 hrs ago #28

It is definitely a misogynist move. Most of us do change our names at marriage... Hekate 22 hrs ago #16

I changed my legal name to my maiden and married name when I got married kimbutgar 22 hrs ago #20

Isn't it standard practice to already have copies of one's birth certificate on hand? Kaleva 21 hrs ago #23

Kindly reread my OP and that of Hunter (#13). Certainly not the RW MAGA to blame for hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #26

Gosh. I had to replace my birth certificate because my mother lost mine. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #33

LOL...I've been voting in Kansas since 1972 and a BC has never been required. Bengus81 20 hrs ago #80

But shouldn't everyone, men and women, have copies of their birth certificate? Kaleva 21 hrs ago #34

Real ID has a number of options. You can do it without a birth certificates. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #35

True but since I had my birth certificate, I used that Kaleva 21 hrs ago #37

That's nice. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #43

Only if your current driver's license was obtained with documents proving your full legal name Ms. Toad 20 hrs ago #91

Based on everything I've read, you need a proof of identity to get a Real ID Wiz Imp 20 hrs ago #97

Blame women....Blame poor women. especially after I detailed the $76 it cost me to replace mine hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #41

We have a full set of vital docs... SickOfTheOnePct 21 hrs ago #42

You know they're not free, right? leftstreet 21 hrs ago #48

More Highly ENTITLED... hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #50

Good for you! yardwork 5 hrs ago #149

If Someone Says It's No Big Deal modrepub 21 hrs ago #25

just went through this - dont forget the notary fee for the document Vitalchek needs +$20 TalenaGor 21 hrs ago #27

You don't need vitalcheck if you go in person or use mail Kaleva 21 hrs ago #39

For gawd's sakes. What percentage of this nations' women live in the state of their birth hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #49

I don't believe women are as helpless as you seem to think they are Kaleva 2 hrs ago #157

If they don't know, they aren't financially secure, trapped in a horrible controlling or violent marriage hlthe2b 2 hrs ago #158

gotcha - I live in a differnt state now so I didnt have much of a choice lol TalenaGor 20 hrs ago #96

Some people have different situations than you. Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #120

It's a BIG DEAL proud patriot 21 hrs ago #36

But the Stepford MAGAs will be ok with it IbogaProject 21 hrs ago #38

Hell. It appears some here are just fine with it. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #45

They will fail. Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #44

"Roe v. Wade will never fall." "No Democratic House member would ever vote to honor Kirk." Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #119

It IS a big deal sdfernando 21 hrs ago #46

K&R. I didn't see the original thread, but I think some of its poo-poo overflowed Torchlight 21 hrs ago #56

My BC copy was $47.50 through the same service. CrispyQ 20 hrs ago #58

I am 77 years old and have never changed my name. PoindexterOglethorpe 20 hrs ago #59

There is a lot of social pressure in many communities for a woman to change her name. hunter 20 hrs ago #93

I lived in Minneapolis in the early years of my marriage. PoindexterOglethorpe 12 hrs ago #140

Just deal with it. Maru Kitteh 20 hrs ago #65

Seems to be the attitude--even among quite a few (male, I assume) DUers on this thread hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #66

And my favorite: "Well, it wouldn't be an issue for ME, so it isn't an issue!" Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #113

Sexism all around us. yardwork 5 hrs ago #146

I recall an article about a poor man in Wisconsin who kept driving to Chicago repeatedly to get his birth certificate lostnfound 20 hrs ago #68

Isn't it amazing how prevalent gaslighting is here? littlemissmartypants 20 hrs ago #71

Also sealioning! Also dismissing! Also misinformation! It's a bonanza of obnoxiousness! Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #116

Birth certificates have never been free synni 20 hrs ago #77

Using "never" is really silly. Some states DID and all or nearly all DO. But that isn't the point hlthe2b 19 hrs ago #101

Many years Rebl2 20 hrs ago #78

Poll Tax PurgedVoter 20 hrs ago #81

as an adoptee mokeyz 20 hrs ago #83

I have another complex paper trail TommyT139 20 hrs ago #95

your dad did you a solid Skittles 20 hrs ago #86

In Ohio if there were multiple marriages Hope22 20 hrs ago #87

Much ado about nothing Gimpyknee 20 hrs ago #92

Kick SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #103

I have ForgedCrank 19 hrs ago #104

yeah. None of this is a big deal to men... hlthe2b 19 hrs ago #107

Those are ForgedCrank 19 hrs ago #117

You aren't even responding to the issues on this thread. Not having read any of it, obviously. hlthe2b 16 hrs ago #133

Ok ForgedCrank 16 hrs ago #134

Last Name voting issue ms.pamela 19 hrs ago #111

Most of us (at lest the majority women on this thread know). The men mostlly have shown they hlthe2b 19 hrs ago #112

I'm amazed at the energy used to downplay this marginalization tactic. Ilikepurple 18 hrs ago #118

The clear message here is that if a bunch of women lose the right to vote, it's no big deal. Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #124

This will discourage women from taking their husband's names when they marry. milestogo 18 hrs ago #125

It's a total pain in the ass for women who Warpy 17 hrs ago #130

Thanks hil. I deleted. Then I thought better of it, came across applegrove 17 hrs ago #131

Thank you JustAnotherGen 17 hrs ago #132

Then there's this character. Totally Tunsie 15 hrs ago #135

NH libertarians passed this Tesha 15 hrs ago #136

To the handful of naysayers: "this will never happen" on this thread--SEE THE POST ABOVE #136 hlthe2b 6 hrs ago #143

Don't get me started róisín_dubh 11 hrs ago #142

Ridiculous kkmarie 5 hrs ago #144

It's absolutely ridiculous and infuriating. still-prayin4rain 5 hrs ago #148

True that it's an expense. But overall, why not see the expense as an investment in original documents, which ancianita 4 hrs ago #151

For gawd's sakes, ancianita, it is an equity issue and an intentional effort to disenfranchise women! hlthe2b 4 hrs ago #152

Thanks. Understood. It's likely because I didn't read any previous thread on this, I did not know this part: ancianita 53 min ago #160

Thanks ancianita for taking the time to go back... hlthe2b 36 min ago #162

Passport $190, updated birth certificate $30 Clouds Passing 3 hrs ago #155

So you live in the state of your birth? Hardly comparable, but good on you. hlthe2b 3 hrs ago #156