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hlthe2b

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156. So you live in the state of your birth? Hardly comparable, but good on you.

Wed Sep 24, 2025, 10:33 AM

7 hrs ago

Most women this impacts do not, and they will incur significantly more expense, especially if they never received a birth certificateificate or previously requested it, live out of state, cannot produce a marriage certificate(s), and/or a divorce certificate(s) and are trying to change their voter registration in advance of these attempts to change the system (or definitive change already made as in NH). It is a marital name change issue, and it is not merely the cost of replacing a birth certificate. Read the thread and see.

It is not a small matter--especially for those women who face financial difficulty or are low information voters and don't know (or are not given sufficient advance notice if this passes Federally at the last minute, as is the RW's strategy) to ensure they cannot respond in time. Many of these are OUR voters, too? See the problem- even if the individual dilemma does not strike a chord?

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I just want to add a comment to those thinking the voting marital name change issue is not a problem [View all] hlthe2b Yesterday OP

Kick SheltieLover Yesterday #1

It is a BIG DEAL! EarthAbides Yesterday #2

I still have the name I was born with Grim Chieftain Yesterday #19

for the short time I was married in the 1980s, barbtries Yesterday #102

So do I! calimary 18 hrs ago #138

Great story Grim Chieftain 17 hrs ago #139

Hugs back atcha, Grim Chieftain! calimary 3 hrs ago #167

And it's a BIGGER deal than a birth certificate. pnwmom Yesterday #94

I have been married twice oberle 19 hrs ago #137

At least till Congress requires it is the bottom line. And if it takes months to gather your documents, pnwmom 16 hrs ago #141

Which is the point. pandr32 6 hrs ago #159

Slightly off-topic but those documents can also VTderry 9 hrs ago #150

My maga sister is one of those who stupidly says it is no big deal. Not to her, she is rich. Trueblue1968 Yesterday #3

It costs money and takes time, too. MineralMan Yesterday #4

Every obstacle to make it harder to vote ... now who would that benefit ... I wonder who .... Could it be .... eppur_se_muova Yesterday #5

Same thing, different name. soldierant Yesterday #88

Thank you. Solly Mack Yesterday #6

applegrove's post was about needing to get a marriage certificate... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #7

She also discussed the voting issue. Are you claiming I am lying? You need the birth certificate hlthe2b Yesterday #8

No, I'm not claiming that you're lying... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #11

Women have to have both! EarthAbides Yesterday #22

Yes, for some things they do SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #24

It is definitely a tax on women. Scrivener7 Yesterday #29

Where are women required to have a birth certificate to vote? SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #31

I just can't anymore. Scrivener7 Yesterday #40

Not sure why... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #47

That's the subject of this thread. What have you been reading? Scrivener7 Yesterday #51

And yet... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #52

Because you couldn't possibly google or keep up: House GOP tramples on women's rights with passage of SAVE Act hlthe2b Yesterday #53

I'm well aware of the SAVE Act... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #55

And you think those affected will have the time to react if it is signed/enacted? hlthe2b Yesterday #57

Which seven Democratic Senators ... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #61

They are clearly delaying to the last minute to ensure women have no chance to respond... hlthe2b Yesterday #64

I do care about women being disenfranchised... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #70

MEN do not change their name to their wife's. IT IS about women. Good gawd. hlthe2b Yesterday #75

Under the SAVE Act... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #84

How many House Democrats did you think were going to vote to honor Charlie Kirk? Scrivener7 Yesterday #73

Did you believe that Roe vs Wade could never be overturned? Or the Voting Rights Act be gutted? The GOP ... Hekate 5 hrs ago #163

NO. It absolutely does NOT. Scrivener7 Yesterday #69

Sorry, what "absolutely does NOT"? SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #72

You really just need to go read it. Scrivener7 Yesterday #74

I actually did... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #89

Because it hasn't passed the Senate yet. They are likely waiting till close to Scrivener7 Yesterday #54

Exactly. They want to pass/enact it at last minute to prevent women from having the chance hlthe2b Yesterday #60

I seriously can't deal with this anymore. We are actually needing to defend the idea that this is not a good thing. Scrivener7 Yesterday #67

One might wonder why they are on DU... hlthe2b Yesterday #99

I'm absolutely sure what you're talking about... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #108

And you missed the fact that, in practice, many women will need to provide both. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #121

You seem to miss the point of what the birth certificate requirement is for SickOfTheOnePct 22 hrs ago #126

Have a lovely evening. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #127

It will not pass Wiz Imp Yesterday #82

Hope not. But I didn't think House Democrats would vote to honor Kirk. Scrivener7 Yesterday #85

I'm not trying to downplay it but the majority of women would not be impacted immediately. Wiz Imp Yesterday #110

How many women moved, changed their name or changed party registration last year? Scrivener7 Yesterday #114

Somebody needs to look up the word downplay and perhaps rewrite their title. Ilikepurple 21 hrs ago #129

You're sure Republicans won't get rid of the filibuster to assure they stay in power? SunSeeker Yesterday #90

Yes. I'm sure Republicans will not get rid of the filibuster just for this. Wiz Imp Yesterday #106

No. You're not sure. You're no more sure of that than people were sure Roe v. Wade would hold. Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #115

Yes I am sure. I'd stake my life savings on it. It WILL NOT HAPPEN Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #122

OK. So you've informed us bout your infallibility, and about the fact that you are OK with Democratic citizens Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #123

Amazing. You misrepresented every single thing I said. Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #128

I, too, suspect it will not pass crimycarny 5 hrs ago #161

Thank you for understanding the point. Wiz Imp 4 hrs ago #164

Not required in Kansas............ Bengus81 Yesterday #76

YET. This is about the Federal SAVE ACT. Google or head upstream. hlthe2b Yesterday #100

SAVE act requires a birth certificate to vote if you legally changed your name... haele Yesterday #98

It's A Tax RobinA Yesterday #105

Regarding marriage certificates... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #109

I've read your post four times and I still can't make sense of it. yardwork 10 hrs ago #145

I apologize if what I said wasn't clear SickOfTheOnePct 8 hrs ago #153

Its a tax on women if women need a birth certificate to vote MadameButterfly 9 hrs ago #147

I agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct 8 hrs ago #154

I've been amazed at the Democratic/left pooh-poohing on this issue since the early push for RealID for voting Ms. Toad Yesterday #9

Boy, that's some serious poll taxing. ananda Yesterday #10

I'm not aware of any states that require a birth certificate to vote SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #14

Have you missed the weeks of discussion of the RW attempts to do so? hlthe2b Yesterday #17

I'm aware that a number of Republican states are trying... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #18

Perhaps you could Google the question. mgardener Yesterday #62

It's up to the people making the claims... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #63

This requirement for women to prove their maiden name is exactly that. It requires a birth certificate to vote. Scrivener7 Yesterday #30

What requirement for women to prove their maiden name in order to vote? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #32

I'll bet 50-75% of men don't have a clue where their BC is. I had to buy one years ago Bengus81 Yesterday #79

+1 leftstreet Yesterday #15

So glad I never changed my name. Coventina Yesterday #12

The old style birth certificates that I got in the early 'seventies from the county courthouse... hunter Yesterday #13

Yeah... I still have that one, but it was refused. Irritating as hell. hlthe2b Yesterday #21

A few years ago I had to get birth certificates for different relatives across 3 different states ClaudetteCC Yesterday #28

It is definitely a misogynist move. Most of us do change our names at marriage... Hekate Yesterday #16

I changed my legal name to my maiden and married name when I got married kimbutgar Yesterday #20

Isn't it standard practice to already have copies of one's birth certificate on hand? Kaleva Yesterday #23

Kindly reread my OP and that of Hunter (#13). Certainly not the RW MAGA to blame for hlthe2b Yesterday #26

Gosh. I had to replace my birth certificate because my mother lost mine. Scrivener7 Yesterday #33

LOL...I've been voting in Kansas since 1972 and a BC has never been required. Bengus81 Yesterday #80

But shouldn't everyone, men and women, have copies of their birth certificate? Kaleva Yesterday #34

Real ID has a number of options. You can do it without a birth certificates. Scrivener7 Yesterday #35

True but since I had my birth certificate, I used that Kaleva Yesterday #37

That's nice. Scrivener7 Yesterday #43

Only if your current driver's license was obtained with documents proving your full legal name Ms. Toad Yesterday #91

Based on everything I've read, you need a proof of identity to get a Real ID Wiz Imp Yesterday #97

Blame women....Blame poor women. especially after I detailed the $76 it cost me to replace mine hlthe2b Yesterday #41

We have a full set of vital docs... SickOfTheOnePct Yesterday #42

You know they're not free, right? leftstreet Yesterday #48

More Highly ENTITLED... hlthe2b Yesterday #50

Good for you! yardwork 9 hrs ago #149

If Someone Says It's No Big Deal modrepub Yesterday #25

just went through this - dont forget the notary fee for the document Vitalchek needs +$20 TalenaGor Yesterday #27

You don't need vitalcheck if you go in person or use mail Kaleva Yesterday #39

For gawd's sakes. What percentage of this nations' women live in the state of their birth hlthe2b Yesterday #49

I don't believe women are as helpless as you seem to think they are Kaleva 7 hrs ago #157

If they don't know, they aren't financially secure, trapped in a horrible controlling or violent marriage hlthe2b 7 hrs ago #158

What does anything in that post have to do with helplessness? Scrivener7 2 hrs ago #168

gotcha - I live in a differnt state now so I didnt have much of a choice lol TalenaGor Yesterday #96

Some people have different situations than you. Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #120

It's a BIG DEAL proud patriot Yesterday #36

But the Stepford MAGAs will be ok with it IbogaProject Yesterday #38

Hell. It appears some here are just fine with it. Scrivener7 Yesterday #45

They will fail. Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #44

"Roe v. Wade will never fall." "No Democratic House member would ever vote to honor Kirk." Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #119

It IS a big deal sdfernando Yesterday #46

K&R. I didn't see the original thread, but I think some of its poo-poo overflowed Torchlight Yesterday #56

My BC copy was $47.50 through the same service. CrispyQ Yesterday #58

I am 77 years old and have never changed my name. PoindexterOglethorpe Yesterday #59

There is a lot of social pressure in many communities for a woman to change her name. hunter Yesterday #93

I lived in Minneapolis in the early years of my marriage. PoindexterOglethorpe 16 hrs ago #140

Just deal with it. Maru Kitteh Yesterday #65

Seems to be the attitude--even among quite a few (male, I assume) DUers on this thread hlthe2b Yesterday #66

And my favorite: "Well, it wouldn't be an issue for ME, so it isn't an issue!" Scrivener7 Yesterday #113

Sexism all around us. yardwork 10 hrs ago #146

I recall an article about a poor man in Wisconsin who kept driving to Chicago repeatedly to get his birth certificate lostnfound Yesterday #68

Isn't it amazing how prevalent gaslighting is here? littlemissmartypants Yesterday #71

Also sealioning! Also dismissing! Also misinformation! It's a bonanza of obnoxiousness! Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #116

Birth certificates have never been free synni Yesterday #77

Using "never" is really silly. Some states DID and all or nearly all DO. But that isn't the point hlthe2b Yesterday #101

Many years Rebl2 Yesterday #78

Poll Tax PurgedVoter Yesterday #81

as an adoptee mokeyz Yesterday #83

I have another complex paper trail TommyT139 Yesterday #95

your dad did you a solid Skittles Yesterday #86

In Ohio if there were multiple marriages Hope22 Yesterday #87

Much ado about nothing Gimpyknee Yesterday #92

Kick SheltieLover Yesterday #103

I have ForgedCrank Yesterday #104

yeah. None of this is a big deal to men... hlthe2b Yesterday #107

Those are ForgedCrank 23 hrs ago #117

You aren't even responding to the issues on this thread. Not having read any of it, obviously. hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #133

Ok ForgedCrank 21 hrs ago #134

Last Name voting issue ms.pamela Yesterday #111

Most of us (at lest the majority women on this thread know). The men mostlly have shown they hlthe2b Yesterday #112

I'm amazed at the energy used to downplay this marginalization tactic. Ilikepurple 23 hrs ago #118

The clear message here is that if a bunch of women lose the right to vote, it's no big deal. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #124

This will discourage women from taking their husband's names when they marry. milestogo 22 hrs ago #125

It's a total pain in the ass for women who Warpy 21 hrs ago #130

Thanks hil. I deleted. Then I thought better of it, came across applegrove 21 hrs ago #131

Thank you JustAnotherGen 21 hrs ago #132

Then there's this character. Totally Tunsie 20 hrs ago #135

NH libertarians passed this Tesha 19 hrs ago #136

To the handful of naysayers: "this will never happen" on this thread--SEE THE POST ABOVE #136 hlthe2b 10 hrs ago #143

I don't see anyone saying it will NEVER happen Wiz Imp 3 hrs ago #166

You haven't looked then. hlthe2b 1 hr ago #169

It passed in New Hampshire with zero Democratic votes Wiz Imp 3 hrs ago #165

Don't get me started róisín_dubh 16 hrs ago #142

Ridiculous kkmarie 10 hrs ago #144

It's absolutely ridiculous and infuriating. still-prayin4rain 9 hrs ago #148

True that it's an expense. But overall, why not see the expense as an investment in original documents, which ancianita 9 hrs ago #151

For gawd's sakes, ancianita, it is an equity issue and an intentional effort to disenfranchise women! hlthe2b 8 hrs ago #152

Thanks. Understood. It's likely because I didn't read any previous thread on this, I did not know this part: ancianita 5 hrs ago #160

Thanks ancianita for taking the time to go back... hlthe2b 5 hrs ago #162

Passport $190, updated birth certificate $30 Clouds Passing 8 hrs ago #155

So you live in the state of your birth? Hardly comparable, but good on you. hlthe2b 7 hrs ago #156