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184. Taking into account repugs physically took election machines to run "forensics" on them

Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:46 AM

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They did this in states where trump lost but thought he had won. This allows some tech gurus, say Elon Muskovites, to figure out how to rig them for future events.

If Trumpty Dumpty overwhelmingly lost ground on paper hand counts vs. machine count, then a case can be made.

I did notice on election night the trump butt kissing media were all too eager to claim his wins and make Harris supporters wait deep into the night.

Having said all this, it was still up to Harris to not concede if she felt fraud and she did not.

How did Trump win ALL the swing states? I don't know, but as a St. Louis Rams fan, I am still wondering how Belichick had his defense in perfect position for all of madman Martz's crazy BRAND NEW trick plays? Guy in the stands, so the NFL tore up the evidence for the good of the ~~Patriots~~ game and if this discovery and the election is proven correct repugs will say she conceded, blah, blah, blah, sore loser etc.

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I remain doubting malaise [View all] malaise Wednesday OP

Kamala won gab13by13 Wednesday #1

In NC, barbtries Wednesday #9

This. Many of us here don't, and I'm one too. ms liberty Wednesday #19

Two Months Between Election and Inauguration Mr.Bee Wednesday #35

Paper ballot hand recounts were necessary. yellow dahlia Wednesday #110

I kept screaming for recounts on social media and to the dem leadership. 58Sunliner Wednesday #156

Yup. I was jumping up and down... yellow dahlia Wednesday #158

No one wanted to pay the hundreds of millions they would have cost n/t MichMan Wednesday #160

Unfortunate, given the costs to this country right now. yellow dahlia Wednesday #161

Same in Michigan. Kid Berwyn Wednesday #87

Same with Oakland County. llmart Wednesday #146

Not Believable. yellow dahlia Wednesday #109

When 90 percent of districts moved right, it's not a surprise Harris didn't flip any EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #14

This interview did not give enough time angryxyouth Wednesday #55

I've gone to their website. It's not even remotely evidence EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #58

They don't claim to have the evidence. Chemical Bill Wednesday #133

The election truth alliance sure spends a lot of time arguing that they have evidence EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #166

What I would like to see are a bunch of controls intrepidity Wednesday #128

Election denialism doesn't serve our cause Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #15

Unless we figure out a way to stop it. I'm sure that is where they are going next Maraya1969 Wednesday #31

How can you stop something that isn't happening? Nt Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #67

So sus! yellow dahlia Wednesday #112

Election fraud denialism hasn't served our cause these past 25 years. Chemical Bill Wednesday #135

2000 wasn't an election fraud issue Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #147

Well... Chemical Bill Wednesday #162

Words have meaning Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #163

The recounts in 2016 showed... Chemical Bill Wednesday #164

Jill Stein paid for recounts in a few states MichMan Wednesday #168

I agree... Chemical Bill Thursday #177

Typically Recounts aren't done unless the margin is Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #171

I'm sorry you didn't follow the 2016 election. Chemical Bill Thursday #178

I followed the election and the aftermath Fiendish Thingy Thursday #181

Actually what is being shown is the reported totals don't seem to be accurate questionseverything Thursday #173

ding. the election was stolen AllaN01Bear Wednesday #29

Yup! yellow dahlia Wednesday #108

He overperformed nearly everywhere Polybius Wednesday #130

Overperformance by an opponent should be expected Fiendish Thingy Thursday #182

I wake up every morning and the things about which I have certainty continue to diminish.... hlthe2b Wednesday #2

Pakman is not credible SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #3

If you go to their website, the "evidence" is non-existent EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #10

Trump administration is manipulating employment and autism statistics bucolic_frolic Wednesday #4

manipulating? barbtries Wednesday #8

Trump pulling numbers out of his ass is not data manipulation. Wiz Imp Wednesday #142

Please stop it. They have not manipulated employment data. Wiz Imp Wednesday #140

He fired the statistician because he didn't like the numbers. So you please open your eyes. /nt bucolic_frolic Wednesday #143

Don't even go there. You're way out of your league. Wiz Imp Wednesday #157

me too Malaise. barbtries Wednesday #5

I mean it's not like they didn't steal elections before. gab13by13 Wednesday #13

thank you for remembering, especially Ohio barbtries Wednesday #17

Right yellow dahlia Wednesday #114

And Humphrey would have won had nixon not committed treason. Clouds Passing Wednesday #24

I don't know this story, barbtries Wednesday #32

Thom Hartmann tells the story about how Nixon went to the Vietnamese and asking them Clouds Passing Wednesday #96

Thom Hartmann tells the story. The Nixon people negotiated with the Vietnamese to continue the war Clouds Passing Wednesday #98

The party of "family values" is devoid of values. Bluepinky Wednesday #30

I think Kamala won. Al Gore won. John Kerry won. Mr.Bee Wednesday #37

yep. barbtries Wednesday #40

legitimately elected president Mr.Bee Wednesday #48

Absolutely -so cataclysmic and catastrophic. yellow dahlia Wednesday #115

Don't forget Hillary. Chemical Bill Wednesday #138

Yup! yellow dahlia Wednesday #113

"Bombshell" my ass. "Clickbait," more like. malthaussen Wednesday #6

Comparing 2020 to 2024 is meaningless. gab13by13 Wednesday #18

Nope, it's the same ridiculous conspiracy theories, just different mouths moving. tritsofme Wednesday #72

Agree yellow dahlia Wednesday #116

You're never gonna give this one up, are ya? Polybius Wednesday #131

In 2020, there were hand counted paper ballot recounts. Chemical Bill Wednesday #139

Kamala won. Musk, Peter Theil, Palantir, Eaton, and others were into the vote data. Botany Wednesday #7

I heard the tabulators used cellular uplinks IbogaProject Wednesday #46

Musk had 265 low earth orbit satellites turned on on October, 30 2024 that gave him and his crews Botany Wednesday #61

They even bragged about it. yellow dahlia Wednesday #119

This! yellow dahlia Wednesday #118

Absofuckinglutely! yellow dahlia Wednesday #117

I just wat to say one word: Duh! slightlv Wednesday #11

Easily refuted clickbait nonsense Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #12

A forensic audit was never done, gab13by13 Wednesday #16

There's no such thing Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #22

You don't listen to the material and you present an article that uses a " theory " that is clearly explained away questionseverything Wednesday #84

Blah, blah, blah Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #89

So you are admitting you have not read or listened to any of the material presented questionseverything Wednesday #91

I have been exposed to every evidence-free, cockamamie 2024 election-denying conspiracy theory out there Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #94

I heard they stole it using Jewish Space Lasers! 🤣🙄 Wiz Imp Wednesday #145

From one member of the reality based community to another... Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #148

I am right there with you, malaise. llmart Wednesday #20

Agree. yellow dahlia Wednesday #121

It's hard for me to believe that Trump's army of marching morons totaled 77,000,000 Americans RVN VET71 Wednesday #21

I wrote about it in February Mr.Bee Wednesday #23

And it was removed, wasn't it? MichMan Wednesday #27

Sounds like the jury made a wise decision. tritsofme Wednesday #73

That's Right! Mr.Bee Thursday #180

How about AverageOldGuy Wednesday #25

2034 Mr.Bee Wednesday #38

My concern is there won't be an election in 2026. rubbersole Wednesday #51

Me too. Kid Berwyn Wednesday #26

Agree karin_sj Wednesday #28

The real question we need to be asking ourselves KS Toronado Wednesday #33

THIS malaise Wednesday #42

Let me help you out Malaise..... KS Toronado Wednesday #43

YES. fully agree. I and i feel ALL others here cannot prove 100% if the election WAS or WAS NOT stolen. bluestarone Wednesday #60

I have often wondered why someone in our party KS Toronado Wednesday #62

What polls are you talking about? EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #65

Prior to the election there were plenty of pools showing us winning KS Toronado Wednesday #68

That's not an answer EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #69

Why are you attacking me? KS Toronado Wednesday #74

Nothing I have said is even remotely an attack EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #85

human nature RoseTrellis Thursday #179

Because this entire election denial narrative is garbage? tritsofme Wednesday #75

Transparency in elections is not nonsense ...Geesh questionseverything Wednesday #90

No, but these delusional conspiracy theories sure are. tritsofme Wednesday #99

Ms Harris is not a computer scientist or programmer so how could this be on her? questionseverything Wednesday #106

All we need to do is handcount the precincts that are suspicious in Pennsylvania questionseverything Wednesday #83

Been doing ouside duties here. I've heard of NO surveys being done. bluestarone Wednesday #100

Elias is a lawyer not a computer programmer questionseverything Wednesday #105

Hasn't he watched all the same videos that claim to prove it was stolen? MichMan Wednesday #107

Right. yellow dahlia Wednesday #126

I do understand that. bluestarone Wednesday #137

I wonder if Marc Elias was advised to stay away from any form of yellow dahlia Wednesday #124

So you're questioning the integrity of Marc Elias? Wiz Imp Wednesday #149

I LOVE Marc Elias. yellow dahlia Wednesday #152

If you think Marc Elias would listen to the consultants, you're absolutely questioning Wiz Imp Wednesday #155

If you know him, and apparently you profess to, yellow dahlia Wednesday #159

Now these delusional conspiracy theories make people like Marc Elias complicit in covering up a stolen election? tritsofme Wednesday #165

Are you accusing me of asserting that Marc Elias was complicit yellow dahlia Wednesday #167

Your post absolutely accuses Elias of being complicit tritsofme Wednesday #169

I never accused Marc Elias of being complicit in a cover up. yellow dahlia Wednesday #170

First we have to identify the problem questionseverything Wednesday #103

You don't have to get conspiratorial, they cheated in the usual and obvious ways unblock Wednesday #34

All true, in addition why would Musk spend nearly 300 million if they could win by cheating the system anyway. . Doodley Wednesday #59

I do have a theory about musk buying those names of people that weren't registered to vote yet questionseverything Wednesday #93

And if Musk could cheat to elect Trump, why didn't it work in the Wisconsin SC election? Wiz Imp Wednesday #150

We all pretty much agree that repubs cheat every chance they get questionseverything Wednesday #86

There's certainly no sense of ethics at work there, to be sure. unblock Wednesday #141

I mean. He won enough. For instance (anecdotal) SSJVegeta Wednesday #36

Yep I felt the fix was in as soon as Oct 7 happened IbogaProject Wednesday #50

Yup SSJVegeta Wednesday #53

Every one of these arguments SCantiGOP Wednesday #39

Why is david pakman promoting this BS? SSJVegeta Wednesday #54

smartelections.us, a nonpartisan organization, is also looking into election fraud via computerized voting systems. Bluepinky Wednesday #41

If it is so widespread, why choose a few tiny precincts in a state that Harris won? MichMan Wednesday #45

Go to their website and watch the videos about their findings, very informative. Bluepinky Wednesday #49

What happens if the hand count in Rockland County NY doesn't pan out to show anything nefarious? MichMan Wednesday #102

We won't know until it's completed. Let's see what it shows. Bluepinky Wednesday #122

The Rockland County lawsuit is a joke. Wiz Imp Wednesday #151

Why would you say that? All they want is to hand count the ballots questionseverything Thursday #175

I've written about this many times already. I don't feel like repeating myself Wiz Imp Thursday #183

If there is anyone in the world that would try to steal an election... kentuck Wednesday #44

SmartEleactions.us Sept 29, 8 pm ET. Election Verification Orientation. annielion Wednesday #47

That's great! SmartElections.us is so important and informative. Bluepinky Wednesday #52

De rec. Sorry sis, but on this subject we most definitely part ways. Celerity Wednesday #56

Just out of curiosity, do you acknowledge that volkswagons cheating software existed? questionseverything Wednesday #125

I live in a swing state, Georgia. We received 12, yes 12, no exaggeration 12 flyers for Trump. None for Harris. Doodley Wednesday #57

Both may be true. Bluepinky Wednesday #66

Doubt the 2024 POTUS election more over time. PufPuf23 Wednesday #63

Saw that. returnee Wednesday #64

Another angle: returnee Wednesday #70

Yes. I have identified the same possible reverse psy-ops type technique. yellow dahlia Wednesday #129

This election denial nonsense is actually a malicious attack on the character of Kamala Harris tritsofme Wednesday #71

And the elected officials of the swing states MichMan Wednesday #101

Exactly. These attacks against Harris and Democrats really are pathetic. tritsofme Wednesday #104

It took months and dozens of workers to find this evidence questionseverything Wednesday #111

Yet within minutes of Harris' concession people were already pushing unfounded conspiracy theories. tritsofme Wednesday #120

How would they catch it? Can they look into the computer guts questionseverything Wednesday #123

There was nothing to catch, except in the imagination of the folks so enthralled with these conspiracy theories. tritsofme Wednesday #127

I never thought he won fair and square and the muskrat rigged the election in his favor kimbutgar Wednesday #76

Sounds like the exact same sort of election denial conspiracy theories Trumpers pushed in 2020. tritsofme Wednesday #77

I agree with your comment and for a long time didn't want to think it was real but as time goes on I feel that way. kimbutgar Wednesday #78

I'm disappointed and angry with my neighbors for choosing this evil tritsofme Wednesday #79

Which voting machine companies are owned by democrats? questionseverything Wednesday #95

Not just many, ALL of the swing states except for Georgia had Democratic Governors Wiz Imp Wednesday #153

Repubs don't have to control the state, they already control the vote counting and reporting machines questionseverything Wednesday #88

To think he won honestly is to defy logic, common sense, and facts. Irish_Dem Wednesday #80

Ding ding malaise Wednesday #92

If this were a criminal investigation it would be a slam dunk. Irish_Dem Wednesday #97

Always ask the question - who benefits? yellow dahlia Wednesday #134

Yep Irish_Dem Wednesday #136

Yup! and Yup! yellow dahlia Wednesday #132

Not enough data to convince me, but Coldwater Wednesday #81

I don't know where you were, but Trump wasn't remotely quiet immediately after the election Wiz Imp Wednesday #154

I like mayonnaise, also. Much better than miracle whip. madinmaryland Wednesday #82

K&R spanone Wednesday #144

We know she actually won Roxi Thursday #172

I hope we know tge truth before I croak malaise Thursday #174

I never thought Trump won. OLDMDDEM Thursday #176

Taking into account repugs physically took election machines to run "forensics" on them GreenWave Thursday #184