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Abnredleg

(1,229 posts)
22. There's no need for the faux-outrage
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 11:01 AM
Sep 28

We're trying to answer your questions and you will get better responses if you act in a polite and professional manner.

Here are the changes, and the source. Please note the frequent use of "voluntary".

https://www.paypal.com/us/legalhub/paypal/privacy-full#:~:text=Biometric:%20When%20you%20consent%20in,%E2%80%9CPrivate%E2%80%9D%20at%20any%20time.

Key changes regarding biometrics
Expanded data collection terms: The privacy statement now explicitly mentions the collection of "voice identification, photo identification, or face scans".

Purpose of biometric collection: This data is used for identity verification and authentication related to high-security actions, including:
Recovering passwords
Updating profile information
Managing payments and payment methods
Lifting account limitations
Initiating cryptocurrency transfers

Voluntary verification process
: In a separate help article, PayPal clarifies that a new biometric identity verification process is offered to individual customers for enhanced security. This involves scanning a government-issued photo ID and taking a selfie to confirm identity. Customers can opt out and use an alternative verification method via a computer.

Requirement for consent: The collection of biometric information is based on user consent within the PayPal app.

Data retention policies: Reportedly, PayPal may retain biometric data for up to three years after an account is closed, though users have raised privacy concerns about this.

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Consequences of the Genius Act bucolic_frolic Sep 28 #1
Thank you for posting this important information Raven123 Sep 28 #2
Thanks for this. Hopefully, some DUer has an alternative option idea. Scrivener7 Sep 28 #3
What I'm looking for is something that is recognized by online vendors, but isn't so invasive in Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #4
And maybe the answer is to just go back to straight credit card. Scrivener7 Sep 28 #5
Read over the new privacy statement. Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #11
There is usually a direct pay option. I do that at work with a company card. underpants Sep 28 #26
Good to know!! Thanks!! Scrivener7 Sep 28 #36
Is there an article you can post? How the hell are they going to collect face scans, voice and hlthe2b Sep 28 #6
They re a multi-billion dollar business. OldBaldy1701E Sep 28 #8
That is our fear. Is there a well-resourced, authoritative article that documents ANY of this? hlthe2b Sep 28 #9
Such an article would be bad for business, so I doubt they would 'allow' it. OldBaldy1701E Sep 29 #38
Many companies are already using biometric scans to verify ID Abnredleg Sep 28 #13
Duh. Yeah, I have an Iphone, laptop, etc. But, I do not allow them to collect facial recognition hlthe2b Sep 28 #17
There's no need for the faux-outrage Abnredleg Sep 28 #22
I do not respond well to condescension. I'm guessing you don't either. You were not hlthe2b Sep 28 #25
The user is the source if they voluntarily choose to be Abnredleg Sep 28 #27
It will be easy to collect this from heavy social media users milestogo Sep 28 #19
"Easy to collect--not easy to utilize..." Ever seen data on the number of passport photos rejected? hlthe2b Sep 28 #20
Paypal already collects most if not all of that data. onenote Sep 28 #7
Known. Where is the info about FACIAL recognition? hlthe2b Sep 28 #10
See the part of the privacy policy labelled "Biometric" onenote Sep 28 #14
Source of these biometrics? I've never had my face scanned. Have you? hlthe2b Sep 28 #15
Facial scan is an optional means of identity for PayPal Abnredleg Sep 28 #23
Yes I have onenote Sep 28 #29
I'll have to give it a closer look to see if I spot the differences. Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #12
And that's why I don't use Paypal . . . hatrack Sep 28 #16
I don't use any of these services. I use my credit card. If I need to give someone money, I write them a check. Raftergirl Sep 28 #18
Lots of places force you to use Google Pay or PayPal and won't take a credit card dwayneb Sep 29 #40
I joined a You Tube channel and I pay every month with my CC. I have also bought the content creator Raftergirl Sep 29 #41
My debit card seems instant enough for me. bucolic_frolic Sep 28 #21
Thanks. Yes, time to find another pay system or just drop them. yes. yes riversedge Sep 28 #24
I think you'll find that all pay systems have similar policies Abnredleg Sep 28 #28
Glad I finally got around to cancelling my paypal account recently. Talitha Sep 28 #30
I have a paypal account, but I almost never use it. DFW Sep 28 #31
Check their privacy and/or update section. Baitball Blogger Sep 28 #32
OK; I'll look for that, thanks! n/t DFW Sep 28 #34
I only used it once for a limited time and I've already killed my account. lindysalsagal Sep 28 #33
Thank you! Just closed my account. ananda Sep 28 #35
I kicked pay pal to the curb ages ago, B.See Sep 28 #37
My PayPal account was hacked on Ebay. I Emile Sep 29 #39
Cash is king, ok not, but maybe it sould be. Prairie_Seagull Sep 29 #42
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