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Scrivener7

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1. It's NOT Democrats' shutdown fight. The republicans own the government. If republicans

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:30 PM

Sep 29

were not in disarray, they would have the votes to keep the government open. So it's republicans voting to shut the government.

Of course, if the republicans need votes from Democrats to keep the government open, if they can't convince their own party members to vote to do so, then they obviously need to make concessions to those Democrats.

But it isn't the Democrats shutting the government. It's the disarray among the republicans that is responsible for the shutdown.

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Vance calls Democrat's shutdown fight 'preposterous'. Last year, he embraced the idea [View all] spanone Sep 29 OP

It's NOT Democrats' shutdown fight. The republicans own the government. If republicans Scrivener7 Sep 29 #1

The framing needs to be: you want something from us, then give us something we want newdeal2 Sep 29 #2

And it also needs to be, "If you guys are in such a mess, and can't get your own people Scrivener7 Sep 29 #3