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SunSeeker

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20. By agreeing to only the things they've always agreed to. So much for Trump's red line.

Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:38 PM

Oct 3

Earlier Friday, Trump had said if Hamas hasn’t agreed to the proposal by 6 p.m. ET on Sunday, “all HELL, like no one has ever seen before, will break out.”

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/03/politics/trump-hamas-deadline-gaza-deal

Well, Hamas hasn't agreed to the proposal. There is no peace agreement.

We got nothing new. Hamas has always agreed to these parts of our proposals, i.e., releasing the hostages if certain conditions are met. Hamas rejected the parts it always rejects. It refused to disarm/surrender and refused to give up a governing role in Gaza, both key requirements of Netanyahu.

And, Hamas has previously agreed to release the hostages as part of a ceasefire agreement, yet gone back on its word. So any conditional promise by Hamas to release hostages isn't worth much.

Trump is being played by Hamas (they got him to back off his Sunday deadline to accept the deal, with no new deadline) and Netanyahu (who continues to get full monentary & weapons support while clearing out Palestinians from Gaza City). And the MSM is being played by Trump. The MSM continues to be Trump's propaganda stenographer.

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So Hamas has agreed to release all the hostages, and it is almost [View all] lostincalifornia Oct 3 OP

Let's see if Bibi abides by any part of the one sided "agreement" underpants Oct 3 #1

I don't think Hamas will. They were given a deadline of Sunday lostincalifornia Oct 3 #2

I wouldn't get your hopes up that will happen Arazi Oct 3 #3

It isn't what I hope, it is what Hamas said they would do, and with lostincalifornia Oct 3 #5

They won't ever agree to disarm Arazi Oct 3 #7

There is no agreement yet. Hamas is playing him. nt SunSeeker Oct 3 #4

And just how are they doing that? The deadline given was Sunday. What do you lostincalifornia Oct 3 #8

By agreeing to only the things they've always agreed to. So much for Trump's red line. SunSeeker Oct 3 #20

Thanks for the update, and you are right to include the MSM as being played also, which is no lostincalifornia Oct 4 #21

Who cares if Trump gets credit for this Bluestocking Oct 3 #6

Of course you are right, but the damage caused by what happened October 7 to our lostincalifornia Oct 3 #10

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. QueerDuck Oct 3 #9

I am not counting anything, it is what Hamas said. lostincalifornia Oct 3 #12

I understand. It's easy to be hopeful... QueerDuck Oct 3 #15

Hey, Asshole. You may get your Trump Gaza, usonian Oct 3 #11

Hamas may actually release them. Xolodno Oct 3 #13

To the extent there is any actual "accomplishment where someone deserves credit" AZJonnie Oct 3 #14

As far as public opinion is concerned I cant imagine this having a lasting impact SSJVegeta Oct 3 #16

One would think so. lostincalifornia Oct 3 #17

As long as our basic institutions stay in tact -to any degree, public opinion will likely SSJVegeta Oct 3 #18

Hope they release them. Johnny2X2X Oct 3 #19

When I SEE peace, I'll believe it.... Jack Valentino Oct 4 #22

I predict they get the hostages out and then the place is leveled for the golf resort. Vinca Oct 4 #23