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47. They initially treated Bernie Sanders the same way when he ran for President in 2016

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At first they network news ignored his candidacy while putting Hillary on late night talk shows and SNL to make her seem more fun and approachable. James Carville complained that the big donor money was going to dry up. Eventually they couldn't ignore the popularity of his ideas.

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I see a lot of Dem establishment push back on Platner Easterncedar Wednesday #2

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I don't disagree Easterncedar Wednesday #73

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Platner is way more progressive than Mills Easterncedar Wednesday #80

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Really?? SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #11

During the Primary? edhopper Wednesday #30

Which Democrats are endorsing Cuomo? yardwork Wednesday #41

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Did you look at the list of Democrats endorsing Zohran Mamdani? Quiet Em Wednesday #62

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Jeffries endorsed him last week... PunkinPi Wednesday #26

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She did indeed vehemently creiticize him but MadameButterfly Wednesday #106

correction MadameButterfly Wednesday #32

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Gov Hochul counts, doesn't she? Easterncedar Wednesday #81

Kathy Hochul endorsed Mamdani back in September Quiet Em Wednesday #82

Exactly Easterncedar Wednesday #84

Jeffries endorsed last week SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #66

fair enough MadameButterfly Wednesday #113

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No he's not. But, that matter aside... QueerDuck Wednesday #9

What's the alternative? iemanja Wednesday #15

That's for the voters to decide, isn't it? QueerDuck Wednesday #20

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Is Trump on the New York Mayoral ballot? question everything Wednesday #89

Yes iemanja Wednesday #93

and Trump prefers Cuomo MadameButterfly Wednesday #120

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The New Deal can be seen as a beginning of Social Democracy. thought crime Wednesday #117

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Not speaking out as much against Graham Plantner? thought crime Wednesday #112

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