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róisín_dubh

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61. Yeah but why?

Wed Nov 26, 2025, 06:22 PM

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Why did you think it might interest people? To what end?

I live in a country with a much maligned national health system (UK, NHS). I am very, very wary of these kinds of posts.

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Tens of thousands of Canadians died waiting for medical care in the past year: report [View all] OnlinePoker Wednesday OP

LOL n/t leftstreet Wednesday #1

You really need to add some context to that "LOL..." hlthe2b Wednesday #5

Sorry. The article is propaganda leftstreet Wednesday #8

that's a good point. samsingh Wednesday #12

Notice that report doesn't say that the 23,746 deaths were preventable. Bluetus Wednesday #24

Exactly leftstreet Wednesday #26

I think they will be getting lots of doctors from US travelingthrulife Yesterday #78

You need to know what treatment they were waiting for Mariana Wednesday #49

Exactly, and I doubt the records are accurate and consistent across countries Bluetus Wednesday #55

I'm the OP for this post and I just thought of something that wasn't addressed in the article. OnlinePoker Wednesday #64

Yes it does appear to be propaganda. ananda Wednesday #27

Why wouldn't that theoretical article not be propaganda? EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #32

Are you Canadian? leftstreet Wednesday #33

It's not hard to find the data: EX500rider Wednesday #43

In BC, you can just go to the government wait time website. OnlinePoker Wednesday #50

fraser institute listed as libertarian, right bias, even factual reporting niyad Yesterday #72

Either those are the average wait times or they aren't, and if they aren't I assume there is a article refuting them? EX500rider Yesterday #73

Hand waving the data as from a right wing source doesn't really count for much EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #63

I'm not Canadian but I am an American living in Canada. Jedi Guy Wednesday #66

Took me over 6 months to get appointment with a rheumatologist in Montana. Only 8 in the whole state! Attilatheblond Yesterday #80

"proportionally more people die in Canada waiting for medical care than in the US" Facts, please Bluetus Wednesday #46

Here's one estimate. EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #56

It might be. It might not be. Bluetus Wednesday #62

And NO Canadian would opt for the health care system in the U.S. It's the 3rd rail of Canadian politics. Grins Yesterday #77

+1 orangecrush Wednesday #60

2nd LOL Stacey Grove Yesterday #79

Any idea how that compares to the US health for profit system? rurallib Wednesday #2

No clue. I just had the article come across my feed and thought it might interest people. n/t OnlinePoker Wednesday #4

This article seems very misleading. This paragraph notes that deaths rurallib Wednesday #15

Yeah but why? róisín_dubh Wednesday #61

AI overview underpants Wednesday #10

Is this overview regarding the US, or is it re: Canada? rog Wednesday #36

US underpants Wednesday #52

Thank you. rog Wednesday #54

AI Overviews can't be trusted to get things right. highplainsdem Wednesday #40

Can't help but think of the ol 'garbage in/garbage out' re computer data Attilatheblond Yesterday #82

WOW, what are the U.S.'s numbers? Anyone know? jaymac Wednesday #3

If you count those who die uninsured, underinsured and project those number escalating next year... hlthe2b Wednesday #6

AI underpants Wednesday #11

In the US. timms139 Yesterday #68

Personally I'd say many delay even trying to seek care because it is a futile exercise lostnfound Yesterday #70

They seldom say in the USA died from COVID so expect way too rosy stats. GreenWave Wednesday #7

Being turned away KT2000 Wednesday #9

Just for background, this think tank is described as "conservative", and niyad Wednesday #13

Secondstreet.org is a member of the "The Canada Strong and Free Network" RockCreek Wednesday #21

Thanks, so they have their foot pushing down on the side of private insurance Beringia Wednesday #30

As suspected! SheltieLover Wednesday #53

Is this correlated to "what they died of" being the malady they were waiting to be seen for? AZJonnie Wednesday #14

see my post #15 above rurallib Wednesday #16

HA! Great minds think alike (and at roughly the same time) AZJonnie Wednesday #19

Universal coverage is needed here now, but we also need to understand the issues that will arise. Silent Type Wednesday #17

People act like wait times are only a thing in other countries. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #18

Beware beware, sounds like pee pee Pierre DoBW Wednesday #20

I would guess that deaths in the USA are higher. Blue Full Moon Wednesday #22

Did you bother to check the original source of the study? Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #23

"While" is quite a ways from "because of" unblock Wednesday #25

The questions are how many are waiting for life-saving surgery, and of those how many are waiting for donor organs andym Wednesday #28

The headline is deceptive. Progressive dog Wednesday #29

Is this propaganda Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #31

could it be said that tens of thousands Canadians died from waiting for care and AmandaRuth Wednesday #34

These articles are from moscow bot boiler rooms, they have been popping up everywhere. They disguise as news sources yaesu Wednesday #35

not sure what PURPOSE is intended with this post - but health results are demonstrably better stopdiggin Wednesday #37

This is pure propaganda from an Alberta rightwing organization... Spazito Wednesday #38

"Preston Manning" - look no further . . . . hatrack Yesterday #81

Exactly! Spazito Yesterday #83

Just a guess, I'd bet better than 8 out of 10 multigraincracker Wednesday #39

To be honest, this does sound like a 'hit piece' on this ... and if it is a 'hit piece', the question is why, who gains SWBTATTReg Wednesday #41

A work colleague has a torn meniscus and other issues that is locking up his knee in Toronto Melon Wednesday #42

It's estimated that 28,000 Canadians die every year from medical errors. Mosby Wednesday #44

Right wing propaganda Cirsium Wednesday #45

smells like Pee Pee Pierre DoBW Wednesday #58

Reminds me of the right wing "5 million people Whyisthisstillclose Wednesday #47

"Reports" that are THIS slanted deserve some other designation DFW Wednesday #48

I worked in Canada quite a bit, gab13by13 Wednesday #51

Thom Hartmann discussed this on his show a few days back rurallib Wednesday #57

I have two friends who married Tree Lady Yesterday #74

'The figures are a three per cent increase from the previous year..." maxsolomon Wednesday #59

This report brought to you by Blue Cross and Eli Lilly. nt Wednesdays Wednesday #65

It's founders and sponsors read like a rightwing wet dream. Swede Wednesday #67

Understanding The Bopper Yesterday #69

Note that the "Baby boomer generation" is coming up to its end of the road Justice matters. Yesterday #71

Contrast with millions of Americans? Kid Berwyn Yesterday #75

How many Canadians go bankrupt seeking healthcare? Ritabert Yesterday #76