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The Bopper

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69. Understanding

Thu Nov 27, 2025, 01:21 AM

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That there are also "wait lists" in the USA along with NEVER GETTING needed healthcare at all is the only option for 10's of millions Americans strictly because of affordability.. some think hospitals have to treat you no matter what...NOT TRUE..they are only required to try and keep you alive in the moment and elective surgeries aren't that..

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Tens of thousands of Canadians died waiting for medical care in the past year: report [View all] OnlinePoker Wednesday OP

LOL n/t leftstreet Wednesday #1

You really need to add some context to that "LOL..." hlthe2b Wednesday #5

Sorry. The article is propaganda leftstreet Wednesday #8

that's a good point. samsingh Wednesday #12

Notice that report doesn't say that the 23,746 deaths were preventable. Bluetus Wednesday #24

Exactly leftstreet Wednesday #26

I think they will be getting lots of doctors from US travelingthrulife Yesterday #78

You need to know what treatment they were waiting for Mariana Wednesday #49

Exactly, and I doubt the records are accurate and consistent across countries Bluetus Wednesday #55

I'm the OP for this post and I just thought of something that wasn't addressed in the article. OnlinePoker Wednesday #64

Yes it does appear to be propaganda. ananda Wednesday #27

Why wouldn't that theoretical article not be propaganda? EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #32

Are you Canadian? leftstreet Wednesday #33

It's not hard to find the data: EX500rider Wednesday #43

In BC, you can just go to the government wait time website. OnlinePoker Wednesday #50

fraser institute listed as libertarian, right bias, even factual reporting niyad Yesterday #72

Either those are the average wait times or they aren't, and if they aren't I assume there is a article refuting them? EX500rider Yesterday #73

Hand waving the data as from a right wing source doesn't really count for much EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #63

I'm not Canadian but I am an American living in Canada. Jedi Guy Wednesday #66

Took me over 6 months to get appointment with a rheumatologist in Montana. Only 8 in the whole state! Attilatheblond Yesterday #80

"proportionally more people die in Canada waiting for medical care than in the US" Facts, please Bluetus Wednesday #46

Here's one estimate. EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #56

It might be. It might not be. Bluetus Wednesday #62

And NO Canadian would opt for the health care system in the U.S. It's the 3rd rail of Canadian politics. Grins Yesterday #77

+1 orangecrush Wednesday #60

2nd LOL Stacey Grove Yesterday #79

Any idea how that compares to the US health for profit system? rurallib Wednesday #2

No clue. I just had the article come across my feed and thought it might interest people. n/t OnlinePoker Wednesday #4

This article seems very misleading. This paragraph notes that deaths rurallib Wednesday #15

Yeah but why? róisín_dubh Wednesday #61

AI overview underpants Wednesday #10

Is this overview regarding the US, or is it re: Canada? rog Wednesday #36

US underpants Wednesday #52

Thank you. rog Wednesday #54

AI Overviews can't be trusted to get things right. highplainsdem Wednesday #40

Can't help but think of the ol 'garbage in/garbage out' re computer data Attilatheblond Yesterday #82

WOW, what are the U.S.'s numbers? Anyone know? jaymac Wednesday #3

If you count those who die uninsured, underinsured and project those number escalating next year... hlthe2b Wednesday #6

AI underpants Wednesday #11

In the US. timms139 Yesterday #68

Personally I'd say many delay even trying to seek care because it is a futile exercise lostnfound Yesterday #70

They seldom say in the USA died from COVID so expect way too rosy stats. GreenWave Wednesday #7

Being turned away KT2000 Wednesday #9

Just for background, this think tank is described as "conservative", and niyad Wednesday #13

Secondstreet.org is a member of the "The Canada Strong and Free Network" RockCreek Wednesday #21

Thanks, so they have their foot pushing down on the side of private insurance Beringia Wednesday #30

As suspected! SheltieLover Wednesday #53

Is this correlated to "what they died of" being the malady they were waiting to be seen for? AZJonnie Wednesday #14

see my post #15 above rurallib Wednesday #16

HA! Great minds think alike (and at roughly the same time) AZJonnie Wednesday #19

Universal coverage is needed here now, but we also need to understand the issues that will arise. Silent Type Wednesday #17

People act like wait times are only a thing in other countries. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #18

Beware beware, sounds like pee pee Pierre DoBW Wednesday #20

I would guess that deaths in the USA are higher. Blue Full Moon Wednesday #22

Did you bother to check the original source of the study? Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #23

"While" is quite a ways from "because of" unblock Wednesday #25

The questions are how many are waiting for life-saving surgery, and of those how many are waiting for donor organs andym Wednesday #28

The headline is deceptive. Progressive dog Wednesday #29

Is this propaganda Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #31

could it be said that tens of thousands Canadians died from waiting for care and AmandaRuth Wednesday #34

These articles are from moscow bot boiler rooms, they have been popping up everywhere. They disguise as news sources yaesu Wednesday #35

not sure what PURPOSE is intended with this post - but health results are demonstrably better stopdiggin Wednesday #37

This is pure propaganda from an Alberta rightwing organization... Spazito Wednesday #38

"Preston Manning" - look no further . . . . hatrack Yesterday #81

Exactly! Spazito Yesterday #83

Just a guess, I'd bet better than 8 out of 10 multigraincracker Wednesday #39

To be honest, this does sound like a 'hit piece' on this ... and if it is a 'hit piece', the question is why, who gains SWBTATTReg Wednesday #41

A work colleague has a torn meniscus and other issues that is locking up his knee in Toronto Melon Wednesday #42

It's estimated that 28,000 Canadians die every year from medical errors. Mosby Wednesday #44

Right wing propaganda Cirsium Wednesday #45

smells like Pee Pee Pierre DoBW Wednesday #58

Reminds me of the right wing "5 million people Whyisthisstillclose Wednesday #47

"Reports" that are THIS slanted deserve some other designation DFW Wednesday #48

I worked in Canada quite a bit, gab13by13 Wednesday #51

Thom Hartmann discussed this on his show a few days back rurallib Wednesday #57

I have two friends who married Tree Lady Yesterday #74

'The figures are a three per cent increase from the previous year..." maxsolomon Wednesday #59

This report brought to you by Blue Cross and Eli Lilly. nt Wednesdays Wednesday #65

It's founders and sponsors read like a rightwing wet dream. Swede Wednesday #67

Understanding The Bopper Yesterday #69

Note that the "Baby boomer generation" is coming up to its end of the road Justice matters. Yesterday #71

Contrast with millions of Americans? Kid Berwyn Yesterday #75

How many Canadians go bankrupt seeking healthcare? Ritabert Yesterday #76