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EdmondDantes_

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49. That post mentioned families, and in the larger context of the thread

Sun Nov 30, 2025, 12:56 PM

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It should have been obvious.

The claim that a 2 bedroom is only 3 dollars more isn't believable which made me go looking for other sources. And there's also these all of which have higher rates than your link, I don't think there's a definitive value that is accurate.

https://www.zillow.com/rental-manager/market-trends/united-states/

https://www.apartments.com/rent-market-trends/us/

https://www.redfin.com/us-rental-market

https://realestate.usnews.com/real-estate/articles/heres-what-rent-costs-around-the-u-s

https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/

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An investor called $140,000 the new poverty line. Experts disagreed but said he had a point. [View all] Zorro Saturday OP

American Enterprise Institute has only one wing nilram Saturday #1

A fantasy snowybirdie Saturday #2

I would buy this sum is accurate (even low) if one desires to live in an expensive, desirable area AZJonnie Saturday #3

Why shouldn't a "lifestyle" include sports and 2 cars? leftstreet Saturday #5

I think that might be his point. yardwork Sunday #44

Ridiculous Greg_In_SF Saturday #4

When you start with a baseline of 40% dpibel Saturday #11

Well, then it Greg_In_SF Saturday #14

Well, feel free to trot out the figures dpibel Saturday #19

A map.... Greg_In_SF Sunday #32

Now you're just being obtuse dpibel Sunday #43

How dare you call me obtuse Greg_In_SF Sunday #55

DURec leftstreet Saturday #6

"It's laughable to put a poverty line far above the median income in the United States." mountain grammy Saturday #7

Yes, talk about circular logic! yardwork Sunday #45

Mr. Green's numbers sound about right. mwmisses4289 Saturday #8

"minimum rent in most areas is around $2000 a month" -Extremely wrong Wiz Imp Saturday #12

Be interesting to see how they came up with those numbers. mwmisses4289 Saturday #13

It's from the American Community Survey Wiz Imp Saturday #16

You'd have to limit the options to housing appropriate to a family of 4 EdmondDantes_ Saturday #17

I was responding to the claim that minimum rent was at leas $2000 Wiz Imp Saturday #23

That post mentioned families, and in the larger context of the thread EdmondDantes_ Sunday #49

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In my area in NC even a run-down unsafe apartment is more than $1,000. yardwork Sunday #46

Green's required net income: $118,009. The $136,500 is gross. For a family of 4. Celerity Saturday #26

That's another reason a lot of people Haggard Celine Sunday #33

That was the reason my wife worked part time until our daughter was old enough for elementary school NickB79 Sunday #41

Anyone hiring young people to six figures Johonny Sunday #42

Don't know national averages but a little perspective JT45242 Sunday #51

Several points here. First, "laughable to put a poverty line far above the median income" is itself laughable unblock Saturday #9

The basic definition of poverty is this: Wiz Imp Saturday #25

The observations have merit, even if the specific application of conclusion doesn't. unblock Sunday #31

I would think for most families of 4 it's enough to live on but very little disposable income for extras. Raftergirl Saturday #10

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