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EarlG

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84. The posting rules are the same everywhere on DU
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 11:46 AM
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But remember, for the most part you all are the ones responsible for enforcing those rules. That’s why The Way Forward forum provides a reminder that there is an awful lot of wiggle room between “bashing” and “constructive criticism” and people are going to have different ideas on where those lines should be drawn. It also provides a common sense reminder about how to avoid getting posts removed.

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Maybe that's why EarlG gave us The Way Forward forum. quaint Yesterday #1
The posting rules are the same everywhere on DU EarlG Yesterday #84
A concern is, snot 14 hrs ago #202
To answer your questions EarlG 13 hrs ago #209
Get a candidate who supports those things to run in a primary creeksneakers2 12 hrs ago #211
It's a bit tricky... ._. Yesterday #2
Yup, what Jason Crow said last week on TV gab13by13 Yesterday #7
Sorry, it's not the Democratic Party. It's Republican voters, third party voters, and petulant nonvoters lapucelle Yesterday #3
Kamala Harris won the election. gab13by13 Yesterday #6
Yup, pedo Trump cheated on the vote count Farmer-Rick Yesterday #30
That's a perfect way to keep losing iemanja 12 hrs ago #213
Yup! yellow dahlia Yesterday #77
I'm noticing JustAnotherGen Yesterday #9
I can count the leftists I've actually corresponded with online TBF Yesterday #93
I can't do that JustAnotherGen Yesterday #119
Can you "be in community" with Donald Trump? TBF 23 hrs ago #140
I disagree JustAnotherGen 22 hrs ago #145
What is "Magapub/CSA" - TBF 21 hrs ago #159
Magapub JustAnotherGen 21 hrs ago #163
I am old school labor - originally from Wisconsin TBF 19 hrs ago #179
And maga-pub IS NOT a political party---- it is a criminal domestic terrorist organization Jack Valentino 13 hrs ago #207
Thank you sir! JustAnotherGen 4 hrs ago #222
What does any of this mean...Demanding concessions?...Taking up arms against each other? PeaceWave 21 hrs ago #166
Full Disclosure - I'm in NJ JustAnotherGen 22 hrs ago #149
This insists that any change must come from our opposition. Scrivener7 Yesterday #36
I work hard, every single year, to elect Democrats in races big and small. lapucelle Yesterday #45
I think we here all work hard to elect Democrats. And we have been doing so for years. And yet, here we are. Scrivener7 Yesterday #48
Work harder to shut down opposition narratives, most especially those from purists and punishers lapucelle Yesterday #52
Which, by definition, has nothing to do with shutting down discussions on DU. Scrivener7 Yesterday #53
To begin with, expressing an opinion on a topic is not "shutting down discussion" on a topic. lapucelle Yesterday #66
Really? Cirsium Yesterday #92
That's an odd definition of "purist". lapucelle Yesterday #99
Exactly Cirsium Yesterday #117
Even given the definitional problems (and notwithstanding the random use of latin), lapucelle 23 hrs ago #127
hi back Cirsium 23 hrs ago #128
Recognizing a Latin word and saying your conclusion doesn't follow from your premises is not an argument either Ilikepurple 16 hrs ago #198
Creating your own three term argument by merging two distinct and seperate terms into one lapucelle 4 hrs ago #221
I didn't take that as an attack JustAnotherGen 19 hrs ago #180
agreed Cirsium 18 hrs ago #183
We shouldn't "shut down" speech Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #97
Couldn't agree more with you more Scrivener. choie Yesterday #49
It's defining the mistakes JustAnotherGen 18 hrs ago #181
Personally... Chemical Bill 17 hrs ago #190
I agree with you 100% Scrivener7. It is not a fluke that we are in this mess. flashman13 Yesterday #71
I'm really looking forward to the primaries too. We have an incredible bench, and Scrivener7 Yesterday #73
You are? Divergent views within our own party might lead to hurt feelings afterwards. PeaceWave 13 hrs ago #208
+1 leftstreet Yesterday #103
Joe Biden WAS a great President. Chemical Bill 17 hrs ago #193
Well said. Thank you again! KPN 23 hrs ago #132
Isn't amazing that SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #40
Thanks for illustrating the problem. FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #65
The problem is Trump and republicans SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #75
I have never seen anyone here say that Democrats are the enemy FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #78
Good SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #88
And what Scrivener is asking is HOW did we get here? CrispyQ Yesterday #100
We got here because of Republicans SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #110
So was it an attack or not? Ilikepurple 17 hrs ago #192
Have a nice day SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #194
What are you doing? Cirsium Yesterday #94
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #98
With deliberate misrepresentation MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #109
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #111
Unrec. This is why we can't have nice things. TBF Yesterday #112
It's the Democratic Party which nominates candidates which voters either accept or reject Jose Garcia 22 hrs ago #154
With the (somewhat) arguable exception of 2024, voters choose the candidates. lapucelle 21 hrs ago #165
Mahalo, lapucelle! Some seem to forget Cha 20 hrs ago #170
Thank you for this thread, gab13by13 Yesterday #4
I'm firmly in the FIGHT NOW group. n/t PatrickforB Yesterday #34
Same here. And I'm highly suspect of the motives of anyone demanding we do otherwise. FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #67
Careful! Floyd R. Turbo Yesterday #5
Yep. And that's the problem. This has nothing to do with criticizing Democrats. It has to do with looking at Scrivener7 Yesterday #8
Jason Crow backs up your thread, gab13by13 Yesterday #19
I'm with you right up until the part about nominating a republican. But I get your point. Scrivener7 Yesterday #22
Miles Taylor has no political experience and we know karynnj Yesterday #38
Not fair comparing Miles Taylor with Liz Cheney, gab13by13 Yesterday #57
I will listen to him but just based on what you said MadameButterfly Yesterday #63
I remember all the support here for Michael Avenatti for a presidential run. MichMan Yesterday #64
That doesn't mean we shouldn't want fighters, FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #68
I remember it and thinking it beyond stupid karynnj Yesterday #74
While I'm grateful to Conservatives who have drawn a line and chosen to MadameButterfly Yesterday #62
nominating a REPUKE? Skittles 11 hrs ago #217
If we don't look at the issues of the Dem structure, and question it, then we are in a cult... yellow dahlia Yesterday #81
If you look at my sig line JustAnotherGen Yesterday #10
They want all poor people dead, depopulation is a part of Project 2025. gab13by13 Yesterday #20
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever Ping Tung Yesterday #11
"I am a Christian and a Democrat. That's all": FDR, when asked to define his political philosophy. lapucelle Yesterday #21
That was his choice. That's what democracy is supposed to be about...choice. Ping Tung Yesterday #26
Yes, folks choose to vote for Republicans or third-party candidates or to withhold any vote as punishment lapucelle Yesterday #120
And add mainstream media to that list Just_Vote_Dem 23 hrs ago #125
Just as there's nothing wrong calling out the politicians who support or vote for Ping Tung 22 hrs ago #143
Sir, this is a Wendy's Johnny2X2X Yesterday #12
I'm not talking about ripping on Dems and I'm not talking about anything that violates the TOS. Scrivener7 Yesterday #13
I'd be willing to bet that the same posters jumping all over you also FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #69
I actually express hatred JustAnotherGen 18 hrs ago #184
Fire the strategists and consultant class, The party needs to stop making the same mistakes. yellow dahlia Yesterday #86
YES! The 'strategists' and 'Consultants" don't seem to have Bettie 23 hrs ago #137
That really is at the base of all of it. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #144
The other thing that would make a HUGE difference Bettie 22 hrs ago #146
Indeed. yellow dahlia 18 hrs ago #186
Any time we stop speaking truth, we benefit those who want to hide the truth. hamsterjill Yesterday #14
Yours is a great post also, gab13by13 Yesterday #23
Thank you. hamsterjill Yesterday #24
Agreed! yellow dahlia Yesterday #87
It's just demographics Sympthsical Yesterday #15
But at this point, none of us is. I'm that comfortable boomer you describe. Scrivener7 Yesterday #16
Absolutely Sympthsical Yesterday #27
Cheerleaders, the party is always right, swarm, posse, toe the line, echo chamber, blind loyalty, marching in lockstep, betsuni Yesterday #17
And supposedly, MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #116
. SunImp 23 hrs ago #131
Finding out facts instead of leaping to negative conclusions about Democrats is mocked as mindless loyalty. Projection. betsuni 21 hrs ago #164
We failed to read history, but it's only now that history is understood at all bucolic_frolic Yesterday #18
Somewhat related to your OP, discussions quickly sink... harumph Yesterday #25
So much yes to this! All those bad movies about evil conglomerates trying to rule the world? Scrivener7 Yesterday #29
My daughter quipped the other day - "Who knew the original Superman movie was a road map..." harumph Yesterday #42
We are at a confluence of all the evil empire "Bond villain" types. yellow dahlia Yesterday #90
Time for a paradigm shift. yellow dahlia Yesterday #89
As I have said before: popsdenver Yesterday #39
Amen, sis! demmiblue Yesterday #28
I cleared my ignore list a while ago Bettie 22 hrs ago #142
Trump 2.0 could have been prevented by closing the border and having a normal primary dalton99a Yesterday #31
Thank you! intheflow Yesterday #32
I agree popsdenver Yesterday #43
... SSJVegeta Yesterday #33
In his diplomatic, inoffensive way, I think President Obama pointed the way Martin Eden Yesterday #35
I make no bones about it JustAnotherGen 18 hrs ago #188
DURec leftstreet Yesterday #37
For example, gab13by13 Yesterday #41
I think that's a perfect example because it's my opinion that, if Democratic leaders had not gotten so much Scrivener7 Yesterday #44
Yep, things changed Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #46
And it seems like it took a little outrage to convince them of the fact. Scrivener7 Yesterday #50
That's the problem in a nutshell. AloeVera Yesterday #102
People are pissed at the wait-and-see say-nothing do-nothing approach. dalton99a Yesterday #47
We're in a partial shutdown at the moment. lapucelle Yesterday #113
Eight Democrats voted to end the fillibuster in October, ten in March. Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #126
Your vote counts in both instances are off by one. lapucelle 23 hrs ago #133
So a groundswell of constituent opinion has no effect on your elected officials? Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #134
Social media posts and constituent opinion are two very different things. N/T lapucelle 21 hrs ago #167
i completely agree with you. We should be able to speak freely if it is for constructive reason samsingh Yesterday #51
That's a good example of a topic we should discuss in detail. Scrivener7 Yesterday #114
exactly - and given the power trump is wielding samsingh Yesterday #121
So the lesson, which I hope we have learned, is that we release it all as soon as we are able. Scrivener7 Yesterday #122
there can be no healing until the crimes are punished samsingh Yesterday #123
Concise and to the point. Well said. Escurumbele Yesterday #54
100% Agree, Scrivener 7. If we can't see our own part in something we can't improve... johnnyplankton Yesterday #55
Everything changes except one thing that was never addressed, and still isn't. usonian Yesterday #56
It is important to note that WE elected our officials to represent us Grim Chieftain Yesterday #58
That's why we have primaries SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #60
And if they don't uphold the promises they made in the primaries? Grim Chieftain Yesterday #70
Really depends on the promises they made SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #76
And it doesn't need to be a fight. I made mistakes in my job. Scrivener7 Yesterday #79
Agreed. yellow dahlia Yesterday #95
Wanting to learn from the past & do better in the future... CaptainTruth Yesterday #59
Good Luck with that here. n/t ihaveaquestion Yesterday #61
When do we rank-n-file types get to see the Election 2024 Postmortem? Kid Berwyn Yesterday #72
Spot on! yellow dahlia Yesterday #96
Yup Joinfortmill Yesterday #80
This is what those finger-waggers really are FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #82
I do think the DNC is starting to realize that much of the grass roots is really pissed at the party leadership Bluetus Yesterday #83
I think recent events have provided us with a pretty extensive list of things we Scrivener7 Yesterday #85
I have a list. You have a list. The Party does not have a list. Bluetus Yesterday #105
Without a doubt. And Dems -- all Dems -- should be repeating that list. Bluetus 3 min ago #229
Please link to these threads: MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #91
There was one in particular this morning that was a good example. I can't link to it. For reasons I will not state. Scrivener7 Yesterday #107
Milquetoast, strongly worded letters, old guard, status quo, gerontocracy, Vichy Dems, Surrender Dems, betsuni 23 hrs ago #124
Good post Scrivener7, and a worthwhile question to ask. I feel the biggest mistake we may have made is to underestimate c-rational Yesterday #101
Definitely. I agree with all of that. Scrivener7 Yesterday #115
Right? They see us as the enemy Bettie 22 hrs ago #147
Well said, Scrivener. yellow dahlia Yesterday #104
What a great topic. Absent discussions like these, we Dems are merely REACTING to what the other side does. PeaceWave Yesterday #106
I see the same cheerleaders on this thread. hamsterjill Yesterday #108
I hear you. harumph 22 hrs ago #150
You are absolutely correct! hamsterjill 16 hrs ago #199
Our role in getting here today Quiet Em Yesterday #118
Sadly, I think this is true. We have lost so much civil rights ground Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #139
I am 59 Bettie 22 hrs ago #151
The adults gulliver 23 hrs ago #129
The Democrats I know aren't lazy, neglectful OR self-indulgent. Scrivener7 23 hrs ago #135
"Romans and countrymen, lend me your ears?" gulliver 23 hrs ago #136
Thank you so much Scrivener. KPN 23 hrs ago #130
Great OP SunImp 23 hrs ago #138
Thank you for the thread canetoad 23 hrs ago #141
Loyalty means being willing to examine our own missteps Torchlight 22 hrs ago #148
It's not possible currently to discuss mistakes and we are doomed to repeat them again. Melon 22 hrs ago #152
How is it happening in Texas? SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #156
Beto Melon 21 hrs ago #162
What's he running for? SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #169
See Below Quote Melon 19 hrs ago #172
So what did Beto SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #173
This thread is all about why we don't do that.... Melon 19 hrs ago #175
So who should run in Texas? SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #176
This and your gatekeeping is the issue that prevents open discussion and improvement. Melon 19 hrs ago #177
I'm just trying to understand SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #178
Why? Are you in Texas? Or are you trying to gatekeep? Melon 17 hrs ago #191
No, but am trying to understand what is going on In Texas. SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #196
And I say again...go read the threads on Talarico or Crockett Melon 12 hrs ago #210
I was asking for your perspective SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #215
I have a relative running for the Senate, so luckily Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #157
It has nothing to do with being loyal. It's about fighting back against (often) unfair and unwarranted criticism. W_HAMILTON 22 hrs ago #153
Well, "bullshit criticism" is in the eye of the beholder. Orrex 17 hrs ago #195
I may be late to this discussion, but I read it early this morning and just now thought I would add my 2cents. Ninga 22 hrs ago #155
We had the clear advantage in social media Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #223
We do not need to do this before midterms and publicly oldmanlynn 21 hrs ago #158
Suicidal has been the lack of transparency and free discussion Melon 21 hrs ago #161
The right time is always behind closed doors oldmanlynn 11 hrs ago #218
Absolutely agree! And I've noticed another of the cheerleaders' tactics: Orrex 21 hrs ago #160
That's not an accurate metaphor for your point EdmondDantes_ 18 hrs ago #187
Thanks, but I know what I've seen, and I'm ready to be judged Orrex 18 hrs ago #189
No I expressly don't. But you leap to that conclusion EdmondDantes_ 14 hrs ago #203
Let's just say that the discussion's been going on since before July 21, 2024 Orrex 14 hrs ago #204
And they feel just as strongly as you do about their name calling being calling it as they see it EdmondDantes_ 14 hrs ago #205
I've accused you of exactly nothing except joining the conversation late Orrex 13 hrs ago #206
To quote you EdmondDantes_ 4 hrs ago #220
LOL. No, read it again Orrex 3 hrs ago #226
Sure thing. It's not like you were replying to me or anything EdmondDantes_ 1 hr ago #228
The key: 100% confidence one is 100% correct, obviously morally righteously correct. betsuni 12 hrs ago #212
This part: Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #224
I would remark that biggest reason Dems "lost" Mblaze 21 hrs ago #168
Sounds like you have a problem with the jury system. LudwigPastorius 20 hrs ago #171
She just made the argument iemanja 12 hrs ago #214
No. I think the jury system is kind of genius, actually. Scrivener7 3 hrs ago #225
I choose to belong to the Democratic party Progressive dog 19 hrs ago #174
I choose to exercise my democratic rights iemanja 11 hrs ago #216
of course you do Progressive dog 1 hr ago #227
Time and place. Zelda_Orchid 18 hrs ago #182
Based OP. BannonsLiver 18 hrs ago #185
The number of RECs, replies, and views to this OP shows just how important to the DU community... Ol Janx Spirit 16 hrs ago #197
I think we all have perspectives and ideas that have value, even if only to further a productive dialectic Ilikepurple 14 hrs ago #201
Absolutely agree & Thank You for saying it! 👍nt Raine 15 hrs ago #200
complicit poozwah 5 hrs ago #219
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