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Sympthsical

(10,931 posts)
16. I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 09:44 AM
17 hrs ago

Despite leadership and pretty much every other senator saying the same thing. Schumer leading the caucus into it, and Harris was absolutely in front of cameras then as well.

But the real issue was this - which people either forgot or pretend they never knew. The reason Gillibrand came in for some shit at the time is because she dared say that maybe Bill Clinton's past behavior with women wasn't great.

The lèse-majesté of it all.

And that's when the knives for her came out in behind the scenes Democratic circles. Oh, some insiders didn't like that one bit. So with Franken, they saw an opportunity to sandbag her as Single-Handedly Destroying a Democratic Man.

It shouldn't have been that easy to get people to swallow that narrative and carry it for years, but the Internet is a funny little place. Talking points from the right place get accepted wholesale.

When MeToo became, "MeToo . . . but not our people!"

It continues to be a look. A, dare I say, misogynistic one at that.

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Has Warren? Has Sanders? Has Booker? SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #1
i thought it was one picture samsingh 18 hrs ago #6
No SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #7
And those accusations were absurd PatSeg 17 hrs ago #18
Hannity and Stone were only involved with the first accuser SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #25
"Franken is doing fine"? PatSeg 16 hrs ago #30
Is he broke and homeless? SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #33
It's not how he is doing that is the issue; it's that the electorate was denied one of the best senators ever. Amaryllis 16 hrs ago #41
First he could have run again but hasn't SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #43
Thank you!!! Eom Karma13612 10 hrs ago #89
It's not about him, it's about us. We are missing out. Pompoy 11 hrs ago #83
How? SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #85
That isn't the measure MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #112
Maybe so SocialDemocrat61 7 hrs ago #114
He regrets stepping down MadameButterfly 7 hrs ago #116
I'm sure he does SocialDemocrat61 7 hrs ago #117
No, I will not let it go. He did NOTHING wrong. Ferrets are Cool 16 hrs ago #44
Republicans, and some Democrats, have done far worse SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #46
It was a comedy skit..eom Karma13612 10 hrs ago #93
Yes the picture was SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #101
Interesting that he lives in NYC now. SunSeeker 11 hrs ago #79
He could have run for mayor SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #81
Gillibrand was just re-elected in 2024. Quiet Em 11 hrs ago #84
She flamed out running Karma13612 10 hrs ago #92
She got over one million more votes for Senator than the con artist did at the top of the ticket. Quiet Em 10 hrs ago #94
I'm in NYS Karma13612 10 hrs ago #96
If Schumer retires, AOC will run for his seat. Quiet Em 9 hrs ago #98
That's true SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #102
She managed a photo op? MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #105
More than one SocialDemocrat61 7 hrs ago #113
Where are the "eight others" now? MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #104
They probably have SocialDemocrat61 8 hrs ago #110
That's the false narrative iemanja 6 hrs ago #118
Five Democratic Senators who urged Al to resign ran for President in 2020 DFW 17 hrs ago #11
Harris did get to be VP in 20 SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #13
Indeed she did DFW 17 hrs ago #14
But Gillibrand was the loudest and shriekiest Jilly_in_VA 16 hrs ago #37
Harris was not far behind. DFW 13 hrs ago #61
Whataboutism. Jilly_in_VA 12 hrs ago #65
She definitely took credit for it lame54 11 hrs ago #78
YES, she will MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #106
My senator in Oregon did to but he came Tree Lady 15 hrs ago #54
I'm not so sure he even intended to run for president DFW 14 hrs ago #59
I guess people just hoped he would Tree Lady 12 hrs ago #66
There was PLENTY of that DFW 12 hrs ago #70
Several Democratic Senators have since apologized to him for their statements urging him to resign. DFW 13 hrs ago #60
They were not the only ones. iemanja 6 hrs ago #121
Only ONE person caused Al Franken to quit. 31st Street Bridge 16 hrs ago #28
Oh, sure DFW 13 hrs ago #62
No, I don't; but a family member does 31st Street Bridge 12 hrs ago #64
So do I DFW 12 hrs ago #68
We need fighters, not people who are going to surrender when the going gets tough 31st Street Bridge 12 hrs ago #71
He was 66 with a deteriorating hip condition with over 40 Democratic Senators who were there to back him up DFW 12 hrs ago #74
Amy Klobuchar didn't even defend him. SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #76
It must have been awful for him. AloeVera 10 hrs ago #97
Schumer was one of two final insults DFW 9 hrs ago #99
I don't think that's fair SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #75
Bullshit MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #107
GREAT POINT MoseShrute 18 hrs ago #2
Thank you. She certainly led the charge and ginned-up others to follow. QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #3
Actually it was Schumer who led the charge SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #9
I'm aware of his role too. She was the face of it all... QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #10
The corporate media made her the face of it SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #12
So she played into the hands of the "corporate media" ... interesting take. QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #24
No it's those who continue to attack her and only her SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #32
I will always defend him and stand up to the bullies who characterize his resignation as ... QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #38
Never said that his resignation was SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #40
So by not recognizing the saboteurs and denying their motives... QueerDuck 15 hrs ago #51
So every woman that accused him was a saboteur? SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #52
What about his apology for giving people reason to mistrust him? EdmondDantes_ 14 hrs ago #58
The damage had been done. Do do otherwise, even if justified, would have been to prolong an... QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #91
The root cause is still Franken then EdmondDantes_ 10 hrs ago #95
. MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #108
That is how I recall it PatSeg 17 hrs ago #21
You are correct. There was much more going on. I remember, too. QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #27
And to make matters even worse, PatSeg 16 hrs ago #35
Hear, hear. peppertree 16 hrs ago #39
Yes, it wasn't so much about sexual misconduct, PatSeg 15 hrs ago #55
Why are you unwilling to accept Franken's account in which he blames Schumer? delisen 14 hrs ago #57
Yes, he was on her bandwagon, as I've said. The damage was done, and had he not piled on, it would have... QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #90
I don, t believe I made the point you are attributing to me.nt delisen 9 hrs ago #100
K & R malaise 18 hrs ago #4
Good question samsingh 18 hrs ago #5
Post removed Post removed 18 hrs ago #8
No MustLoveBeagles 17 hrs ago #15
I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures Sympthsical 17 hrs ago #16
My point is she was more concerned about taking down a political rival than protecting women. Chasstev365 17 hrs ago #17
But you're singling her out Sympthsical 17 hrs ago #19
Because she used a situation to eliminate Franken purely as a political rival: NOT COOL! Chasstev365 17 hrs ago #22
So just going to ignore entirely what I said Sympthsical 16 hrs ago #31
I didn't miss your point; I simply don't agree with you! Chasstev365 16 hrs ago #34
Where is the evidence of that? SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #36
https://apnews.com/article/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-al-franken-resignation-a3735f0f78ed6a8949b34cbc82239023 Chasstev365 16 hrs ago #48
That article doesn't prove your accusation SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #49
"Eventually." She did NOT rush to judgement like she did with Franken. I just proved the point! Chasstev365 15 hrs ago #50
She and 38 other Senators took almost a month from the first accusation SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #53
Political rival? karynnj 16 hrs ago #45
Politcal rival? Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #63
Don't confuse them with facts SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #67
I don't even understand where that logic comes from. Quiet Em 12 hrs ago #69
There is no logic in demonization SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #73
"Them"? MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #109
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 7 hrs ago #115
NEVER! Clouds Passing 17 hrs ago #20
WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER OR FORGET..... a kennedy 17 hrs ago #23
Look at all the whataboutism here Fullduplexxx 16 hrs ago #26
Yes, the "multiple wrongs make a right" attitude is something TiberiusB 16 hrs ago #47
Here is Jane Meyer's story suegeo 14 hrs ago #56
Due process is a judicial standard SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #72
You betcha... PCIntern 16 hrs ago #29
Who is your Senator? Quiet Em 16 hrs ago #42
As a Minnesotan . . . Scubamatt 12 hrs ago #77
Will you ever forgive Bernie Sanders? Jose Garcia 11 hrs ago #80
Will you ever forgive Kamala Harris? Jose Garcia 11 hrs ago #82
She was definitely the loudest. Kingofalldems 10 hrs ago #86
Thank you! Chasstev365 10 hrs ago #87
The women-blaming narrative requires putting the blame on her iemanja 6 hrs ago #120
Nice one!!!! I'll second that!!! Karma13612 10 hrs ago #88
It was such an OBVIOUS right wing smear MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #103
Ditto. I will never support Gillibrand in any way shape or form. I even called up her office and told her staffers that PatrickforB 7 hrs ago #111
Bernie too? Kamala? iemanja 6 hrs ago #119
Absolutely Al graycampervan 3 hrs ago #122
Gillibrand BGRD 14 min ago #123
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