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Historic NY

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39. So I aked AI about the crazy
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:26 PM
Mar 3

According to U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the logic behind this "crazy" phrasing is that the U.S. chose to be the aggressor specifically to prevent a predicted attack on its own troops.
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Here is the breakdown of why the administration used this specific term:

The "Proactive" Part: The U.S. launched strikes on Iranian leadership and missile sites before any American assets had been hit.
The "Defensive" Part: Rubio argued that intelligence showed Iran had already "pre-positioned" missiles to strike U.S. bases the moment Israel began its own planned attack. By striking first, the U.S. claimed it was "defending" its personnel from an "imminent" threat.
Avoiding "Absorbing a Blow": The core of the argument is that waiting to be attacked would have resulted in "more casualties and more deaths". Rubio stated the U.S. would not "sit there and absorb a blow" when it knew a strike was coming.

Critics, including some members of Congress and international legal experts, have called this a "war of choice" disguised as defense, noting that the "imminent threat" was based on a prediction of how Iran might react to a third party (Israel).
Do you want to know more about how Congress is reacting to this "proactively defensive" justification?

Secretary of State Marco Rubio Remarks to Press
Mar 2, 2026 — SECRETARY RUBIO: There absolutely was an imminent threat, and the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked – and...
U.S. Department of State (.gov)
U.S. embassy in Riyadh hit by drones - CNBC
Mar 2, 2026 — "We knew that if Iran was attacked, and we believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us," Rubio told...
CNBC
Rubio: 'There absolutely was an imminent threat' from Iran - AOL
Mar 2, 2026 — Ashleigh Fields. Mon, March 2, 2026 at 2:59 PM PST. 0. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Monday said Iran posed an “imminent threa...
AOL.com

Then it gets worse Even AI isn't buying the logic,.
The "Line of Immunity": Rubio also introduced a broader justification: he claimed the U.S. had to strike now because in 18 months, Iran would have reached a "line of immunity" where their missile and drone technology would be too advanced to stop. This logic suggests the U.S. should strike anyone who might become too powerful to be easily defeated in the future.

Makes us the bully - AI agrees. Redefining Aggression.

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Stratospheric genius dalton99a Mar 3 #1
Soooo..if Greenland comes under attack by anyone,we should start bombing Bengus81 Mar 3 #2
Rubio, "We went proactively in a defensive way." Botany Mar 3 #3
And there is no way to repair this amount of stupid. joshdawg Mar 3 #40
That line got me too. yellow dahlia Mar 3 #43
Genuine Gibberish Botany Mar 3 #53
Trump had a huge rash, so we needed a distraction Johonny Mar 3 #4
Moses Mike too. They've got their story ....and they're sticking with it underpants Mar 3 #5
So what you're saying is... D_Master81 Mar 3 #10
Yyyyyep underpants Mar 3 #11
Sounds like the plot of the movie Minority Report. surfered Mar 3 #6
It really does PatSeg Mar 3 #15
Indeed. yellow dahlia Mar 3 #45
On some level I always thought that PatSeg Mar 3 #52
Well said! yellow dahlia Mar 3 #54
Such a good movie PatSeg Mar 3 #57
I'm a little cynical, but. yellow dahlia Mar 3 #59
I guess I'm cynical as well PatSeg Mar 3 #69
Exactly. We have so much information at our fingertips. yellow dahlia Mar 3 #71
Sometimes I am like a kid in a candy shop PatSeg Mar 3 #74
Exactly. I was a bit of a research junkie before, now I need a self help group. yellow dahlia Mar 3 #75
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Mar 3 #77
Hill Street Blues Redux no_hypocrisy Mar 3 #7
It is too early to start drinking, and I clearly have not had enough niyad Mar 3 #8
I feel you orangecrush Mar 3 #14
On second thought, and more reading, I thought, "so what if it is too early". niyad Mar 3 #19
Coming with you! orangecrush Mar 3 #22
Yayyyyyy niyad Mar 3 #23
I like cinnamon pancakes orangecrush Mar 3 #28
Those are good. So are the chocolate ones. niyad Mar 3 #29
You're not alone PatSeg Mar 3 #16
I hear you. yellow dahlia Mar 3 #46
A most excellent point. There are drinking smilies, but you are correct, niyad Mar 3 #49
I said recently - owning a liquor store is a safe industry, right now. yellow dahlia Mar 3 #55
So very true.. niyad Mar 3 #60
It's 2003 all over again D_Master81 Mar 3 #9
Yes, except Trump didn't even pretend PatSeg Mar 3 #21
MAGat logic BumRushDaShow Mar 3 #12
It's a done deal orangecrush Mar 3 #13
" ... so we hit them back first." nt eppur_se_muova Mar 3 #17
Remember, Trump was the kid who invented the game of "Make the Baby Cry" to get others to throw rocks at a baby Attilatheblond Mar 3 #27
I heard the story about throwing rocks. I didn't know the whole story. yellow dahlia Mar 3 #47
Read that it was his mom who outed him on that one Attilatheblond Mar 3 #67
Sadist, at a young age. yellow dahlia Mar 3 #72
Smart people generally hide that they are smart. Stupid people don't have that option. twodogsbarking Mar 3 #18
I guess you can't be a part of the regime without having flunked logic class and being an excellent liar. sinkingfeeling Mar 3 #20
That's stupid with this gang has no boundaries Clouds Passing Mar 3 #24
So let's make sure we have this straight: Ol Janx Spirit Mar 3 #25
We attacked due to a combination of Arab money, and Epstein files. patphil Mar 3 #26
George Orwell could not have stated it better. Wag Wag Wag the dog! flashman13 Mar 3 #30
Marco Rubio might actually have something. chouchou Mar 3 #31
Authentic trumpist jibberish... Wounded Bear Mar 3 #32
How long did it take to cook up this bullshit talking point? Three,four days Bengus81 Mar 3 #33
Jeezus. Joinfortmill Mar 3 #34
But, but question everything Mar 3 #35
5D Checkers sleroy49 Mar 3 #36
I think you're right. calimary Mar 3 #65
Do these people understand the words they use?? lastlib Mar 3 #37
Wow. That IS stupid. mwb970 Mar 3 #38
So I aked AI about the crazy Historic NY Mar 3 #39
Honestly, I'd prefer not to get chatbot output in response to my posts EarlG Mar 3 #41
Game on. Marcuse Mar 3 #42
Can we just fire all the Murdoch republicans already? Initech Mar 3 #44
"...proactively in a defensive way." Gets me - every time I see it. yellow dahlia Mar 3 #48
A person has to be truly ignorant to support these clowns. CaptainTruth Mar 3 #50
So no justification MW67 Mar 3 #51
I see an individual who sold his soul. calimary Mar 3 #56
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." ― W.C. Fields Totally Tunsie Mar 3 #58
And he thinks he's paving, or better yet, smoothing the way for his own run. calimary Mar 3 #61
The absurd is now government policy sarisataka Mar 3 #62
More preemptive Republican wars in the middle east. mzmolly Mar 3 #63
Wow. What logic. Figarosmom Mar 3 #64
He meant to say, "Israel." Kid Berwyn Mar 3 #66
This is.... MarcoZandrini Mar 3 #68
Pre-taliation? AleksS Mar 3 #70
"Proactive defense" -- You mean OFFENSE? Qutzupalotl Mar 3 #73
A true clown car malaise Mar 3 #76
.. BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 3 #78
K&R LetMyPeopleVote Mar 3 #79
Shouldn't their little red hats be changed to Make Israel Great Again? MIGA? Rhiagel Mar 3 #80
Full victim mentality on display! Aussie105 Mar 3 #81
Mission accomplished! Aussie105 Mar 3 #82
Pooptin damifino10 Mar 3 #83
Pre-emptive strikes are the deal of the day! Aussie105 Mar 4 #84
Rubio didn't sell his soul to the Devil... GiqueCee Mar 4 #85
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