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SSJVegeta

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17. Obama nearly won missouri and had a Dem Governor and senator fairly recently.

Reply to FascismIsDeath (Reply #14)

Sun May 17, 2026, 02:43 PM

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Bill Clinton is from Arkansas and it has had two dem senators until the early 2010s. Same with Louisiana btw.

I absolutely respect your point about the uphill battles.

But all states are winnable with the right strategy and the fact we can find dems in each of these states that have found ways to do that, I think reinforces the fact it can be done. The messages appealed to the working classes (manchin included) because the working class voted for them.

Every state is a purple state. And while institutional barriers are part of the reason parties may struggle, it os far from the only barrier, and not one that cant be overcome.

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Democratic turnout was pretty strong in Louisiana. Can we flip it? [View all] Quiet Em Sunday OP

If the fundraiaing for the dems can get tripled or quintupled there might be a chance SSJVegeta Sunday #1

No, the problem there isn't money . It's that it's a very red state JI7 Sunday #2

It is a very red state because democrats have done little to appeal to people and make it otherwise. SSJVegeta Sunday #3

No, it's not messaging . Obama lost the state also. Some people are just very right wing and they have different JI7 Sunday #6

Obama did not campaign in Louisiana in the GE in 2008 or 2012. SSJVegeta Sunday #9

I like in a blue dot in Ohio but grew up in Southern, WV. Some places are just culturally Republican right now. FascismIsDeath Sunday #8

Ossoff, Jon Bel Edwards, Talarico, Warnock, Beshear, SSJVegeta Sunday #10

Only 2 of those qualify really. FascismIsDeath Sunday #11

All count as the south or red states. You can find many ways to discount success of candidates SSJVegeta Sunday #12

Yes but not all of them are dominated by "conservative culture". North Carolina has been in swing state territory for... FascismIsDeath Sunday #14

Obama nearly won missouri and had a Dem Governor and senator fairly recently. SSJVegeta Sunday #17

You are talking about events that happened 1-2 generations ago though. FascismIsDeath Sunday #25

But my point is to examine how they became that way in the first place SSJVegeta Sunday #26

Andy Beshear is not the only Democratic Governor of Kentucky in recent memory standingtall Sunday #23

Kentucky is a lot like West Virginia with the exception that it has a real actual city or 2 with and isn't as white. FascismIsDeath Sunday #27

If Texas is not a red State, but a suppressed State standingtall Sunday #18

All of those southern states suppress the black vote. FascismIsDeath Sunday #24

Ossoff and Warnock would have no chance in Louisiana. JI7 Sunday #13

Instituional and cultural barriers exist. I get it. SSJVegeta Sunday #15

Which Democrats don't run on supporting the working class ? JI7 Sunday #16

Perhaps you misunderatand me. I did not say there is trouble supporting the working class by dems SSJVegeta Sunday #19

Bel Edwards opposed abortion rights JI7 Sunday #20

Yes. One of the reasons he appealed to the working class there. SSJVegeta Sunday #21

Yes, and abortion restrictions hurt the working class economically JI7 Sunday #22

In theory, but it will be tough EdmondDantes_ Sunday #4

Democratic turnout in the Louisiana Senate Primary was lower than Republican turnout. sop Sunday #5

The state also lost a large number of the black population after Katrina and they haven't returned JI7 Sunday #7