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FascismIsDeath

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25. You are talking about events that happened 1-2 generations ago though.

Sun May 17, 2026, 03:18 PM

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Obama's last run was 14 years ago. Bill Clinton hasn't ran for anything in 30 years. In my initial post, I said "at this point in time" for a reason.

I think the election of Obama drove a lot of people crazy. West Virginia use to be a solid conserva-dem state, but between the downfall of the unions, the racism translating into voting after Obama's wins and especially after the rise of Trump, its arguably the reddest state in the country now.

Missouri, same issue, it was quite purple, now its quite red.

Obama will probably always be among the top of the list of leaders I admire the most. But a lot of the local yokels couldn't deal with a black man proving their preconceived notions wrong and the culture wars reignited as a backlash to that.

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Democratic turnout was pretty strong in Louisiana. Can we flip it? [View all] Quiet Em May 17 OP

If the fundraiaing for the dems can get tripled or quintupled there might be a chance SSJVegeta May 17 #1

No, the problem there isn't money . It's that it's a very red state JI7 May 17 #2

It is a very red state because democrats have done little to appeal to people and make it otherwise. SSJVegeta May 17 #3

No, it's not messaging . Obama lost the state also. Some people are just very right wing and they have different JI7 May 17 #6

Obama did not campaign in Louisiana in the GE in 2008 or 2012. SSJVegeta May 17 #9

I like in a blue dot in Ohio but grew up in Southern, WV. Some places are just culturally Republican right now. FascismIsDeath May 17 #8

Ossoff, Jon Bel Edwards, Talarico, Warnock, Beshear, SSJVegeta May 17 #10

Only 2 of those qualify really. FascismIsDeath May 17 #11

All count as the south or red states. You can find many ways to discount success of candidates SSJVegeta May 17 #12

Yes but not all of them are dominated by "conservative culture". North Carolina has been in swing state territory for... FascismIsDeath May 17 #14

Obama nearly won missouri and had a Dem Governor and senator fairly recently. SSJVegeta May 17 #17

You are talking about events that happened 1-2 generations ago though. FascismIsDeath May 17 #25

But my point is to examine how they became that way in the first place SSJVegeta May 17 #26

Andy Beshear is not the only Democratic Governor of Kentucky in recent memory standingtall May 17 #23

Kentucky is a lot like West Virginia with the exception that it has a real actual city or 2 with and isn't as white. FascismIsDeath May 17 #27

If Texas is not a red State, but a suppressed State standingtall May 17 #18

All of those southern states suppress the black vote. FascismIsDeath May 17 #24

Ossoff and Warnock would have no chance in Louisiana. JI7 May 17 #13

Instituional and cultural barriers exist. I get it. SSJVegeta May 17 #15

Which Democrats don't run on supporting the working class ? JI7 May 17 #16

Perhaps you misunderatand me. I did not say there is trouble supporting the working class by dems SSJVegeta May 17 #19

Bel Edwards opposed abortion rights JI7 May 17 #20

Yes. One of the reasons he appealed to the working class there. SSJVegeta May 17 #21

Yes, and abortion restrictions hurt the working class economically JI7 May 17 #22

In theory, but it will be tough EdmondDantes_ May 17 #4

Democratic turnout in the Louisiana Senate Primary was lower than Republican turnout. sop May 17 #5

The state also lost a large number of the black population after Katrina and they haven't returned JI7 May 17 #7