Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: If the Strait of Hormuz doesn't open soon, as seems likely, there will be a massive economic crash [View all]cachukis
(4,118 posts)5. From another perspective
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/04/opinion/strait-of-hormuz-oil-iran-war-energy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.nlA.iUlI.hbj445Fv_z7o&smid=url-share
Markets are dynamic and always respond. First, some oil is already streaming out of the Gulf, either through the trickle of ships that make a run for it, some under U.S. protection, or through pipelines in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Those pipes have the capacity to replace as much as a quarter of normal seaborne flows. Somewhat controversially, the Trump administration has also loosened sanctions on Russian oil to ease our own pain, even if oil money helps fund Russias invasion of Ukraine.
Second, the Gulfs top Asian customers have introduced rationing and other conservation measures. China simply stopped importing for a few weeks. South Korea limited public sector workers to driving on alternate days. The Philippines told government employees to work four days in the office with limits on air-conditioning. Australia has drafted plans for mandatory rationing should the situation deteriorate.
Third, countries are scrambling to rebalance their energy mix. Before the Iran war, some 40 percent of Chinas oil imports came from the Gulf. But the country uses oil for only 20 percent of its energy needs and has already begun to get more from Russia, Central Asia and the United States.
Markets are dynamic and always respond. First, some oil is already streaming out of the Gulf, either through the trickle of ships that make a run for it, some under U.S. protection, or through pipelines in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Those pipes have the capacity to replace as much as a quarter of normal seaborne flows. Somewhat controversially, the Trump administration has also loosened sanctions on Russian oil to ease our own pain, even if oil money helps fund Russias invasion of Ukraine.
Second, the Gulfs top Asian customers have introduced rationing and other conservation measures. China simply stopped importing for a few weeks. South Korea limited public sector workers to driving on alternate days. The Philippines told government employees to work four days in the office with limits on air-conditioning. Australia has drafted plans for mandatory rationing should the situation deteriorate.
Third, countries are scrambling to rebalance their energy mix. Before the Iran war, some 40 percent of Chinas oil imports came from the Gulf. But the country uses oil for only 20 percent of its energy needs and has already begun to get more from Russia, Central Asia and the United States.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
7 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
42 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
If the Strait of Hormuz doesn't open soon, as seems likely, there will be a massive economic crash [View all]
LymphocyteLover
13 hrs ago
OP
there's definitely been some adaptation... but still a lot has been kept afloat by the reserves that are likely to run
LymphocyteLover
7 hrs ago
#27
Absolutely. I totally agree on all those points. The stock market is particularly a mess IMO
LymphocyteLover
6 hrs ago
#32
Yes, but the key is how long the strait stays closed and how quickly the reserves run out
LymphocyteLover
7 hrs ago
#28
Diesel is often made from mideastern crude while gasoline is made from US crude
JT45242
7 hrs ago
#30
Are America's strategic reserves at a 40 year low right before the summer season?
SamuelTheThird
10 hrs ago
#19
Traders in Singapore, Beijing and Mumbai aren't duped by whatever Trump says
GreatGazoo
6 hrs ago
#36
"futures price contracts probably isn't a good predictor of actual future prices" -- meaning spot prices, yes
GreatGazoo
1 hr ago
#42
Appreciate your insight as I'm an admitted economic idiot. I can see where Exxon would be trying to "warn"
Cheezoholic
9 hrs ago
#21
Since oil is sold as futures there is more profit when buyers panic about the future
GreatGazoo
5 hrs ago
#37
Last week Exxon Mobil warned that oil inventories will fall to record low levels in coming weeks
LymphocyteLover
6 hrs ago
#33
"one of the key reasons that Trump started this conflict was to increase energy prices"-- agree
LymphocyteLover
7 hrs ago
#25