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WSHazel

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40. Remember that the UAE left OPEC a few weeks ago
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 04:44 PM
9 hrs ago

The UAE didn't want to be restricted by production quotas that Iran and Iraq were not going to abide by anyway.

The long-term horizon for oil is glut. There is long term demand destruction, and significant additional demand destruction as oil crosses $100/barrel. Trump is trying to create an artificial shortage by blockading the Strait, but the producers are finding a way around it and people are consuming less. The catastrophizing about the Strait is being driven by the White House to manipulate oil prices.

If Trump ordered the U.S. military to also blockade the Red Sea, which is not out of the question, then it would be time to panic. I also wouldn't put it past him to "accidentally" blow up Saudi shipping logistics.

Our President appears to be using our military to try to manufacture an artificial energy crisis for his own political and financial benefit. Let that sink in for a while.

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The shit is on the wing orangecrush 18 hrs ago #1
The storage cushion is fudgy. bucolic_frolic 18 hrs ago #2
President Bone Spurs had a plan to get out of Vietnam. Emile 17 hrs ago #3
Daddy's not buying his way out of this one. dem4decades 17 hrs ago #4
From another perspective cachukis 17 hrs ago #5
there's definitely been some adaptation... but still a lot has been kept afloat by the reserves that are likely to run LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #27
No question. One of my worries is the takeover of cachukis 11 hrs ago #31
Absolutely. I totally agree on all those points. The stock market is particularly a mess IMO LymphocyteLover 11 hrs ago #32
Have invested mostly in real estate over the last cachukis 11 hrs ago #34
Why would " Diesel goes first"??? Melon 17 hrs ago #6
800,000 to 1.2 million SamuelTheThird 16 hrs ago #11
It's one country. Multiply across all oil producing Melon 8 hrs ago #41
Yes, but the key is how long the strait stays closed and how quickly the reserves run out LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #28
Diesel is often made from mideastern crude while gasoline is made from US crude JT45242 12 hrs ago #30
Completely wrong. GreatGazoo 17 hrs ago #7
lol@your link SamuelTheThird 16 hrs ago #10
You ignored all the numbers to nitpick about semantics GreatGazoo 15 hrs ago #15
Are America's strategic reserves at a 40 year low right before the summer season? SamuelTheThird 15 hrs ago #19
Traders in Singapore, Beijing and Mumbai aren't duped by whatever Trump says GreatGazoo 11 hrs ago #36
This message was self-deleted by its author LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #29
Futures Are Not Delivery modrepub 9 hrs ago #39
"futures price contracts probably isn't a good predictor of actual future prices" -- meaning spot prices, yes GreatGazoo 6 hrs ago #42
Appreciate your insight as I'm an admitted economic idiot. I can see where Exxon would be trying to "warn" Cheezoholic 14 hrs ago #21
Futures lock in a price right now GreatGazoo 12 hrs ago #22
Admittedly, Im no expert or even amateur...but SamuelTheThird 11 hrs ago #35
Since oil is sold as futures there is more profit when buyers panic about the future GreatGazoo 10 hrs ago #37
All hinging on a deal that isn't going to happen SamuelTheThird 10 hrs ago #38
Last week Exxon Mobil warned that oil inventories will fall to record low levels in coming weeks LymphocyteLover 11 hrs ago #33
Demand destruction WSHazel 17 hrs ago #8
"one of the key reasons that Trump started this conflict was to increase energy prices"-- agree LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #25
And it's all part of the plan... 2naSalit 16 hrs ago #9
Excellent summation. Kid Berwyn 16 hrs ago #12
I don't think the Strait of Hormuz never reopening is going to happen, but it will not reopen without a major shock ToxMarz 15 hrs ago #13
Agree. Thanks for the link. LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #24
Kick dalton99a 15 hrs ago #14
MAGA does the full collapse kairos12 15 hrs ago #16
First the bastids want to grift off it, if they can. GreenWave 15 hrs ago #17
But I thouight it would be open in two weeks. AverageOldGuy 15 hrs ago #18
That's the point. Blue Full Moon 15 hrs ago #20
Unbelievably awful LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #23
It's happening now as we speak. marble falls 12 hrs ago #26
Remember that the UAE left OPEC a few weeks ago WSHazel 9 hrs ago #40
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