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Cheezoholic

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13. There is no dispute I would argue that Independents and people who don't participate in general are where it's at for us
Sat May 10, 2025, 08:01 PM
May 10

Where it's at as in where we need to get votes from. I get whats in the OP is most likely BS in disguise and more likely a pure power grab at a growing vacuum in our political spectrum that could either cripple our government or completely dissolve it similar to parliamentary politics of smaller per capita Democracies around the world.

But to use the analogy of an unkept car on fire missing 4 lug nuts on every wheel going 90mph its quite difficult to convince people to "get in". Of course the first thing we have to do is stop the car from completely exploding by getting Democrats back in. But then at the same time, IMO we have to be honest with ourselves and John Q that yes we've been here a couple of times in the last 50 years with enough power to try and slow this car down and fix the wheels but for whatever reason we didn't. THIS time we will. And IF we can get back in power we must DEMAND our DEMOCRATS quit fucking around and play hardball and fix this damn car so this fucking bullshit never happens again. And that starts with getting ALL MONEY out of politics from the ground up. That one principle will win us elections, if we REALLY mean it. That means IF we win we put all elected Democrats on notice. Your number one job is to shut down the giant money machine that owns our elections first and then our government second.

I can tell you from personal conversations in a conservative area that NOBODY, R, I, D or a non participant, none of them, likes this grotesque money BS! Yes there's a ton of other "agendas" that need addressed but lets face it. If we don't get this insane grotesque amount of cash out of our political system it really doesn't matter who wins. And more importantly we will never get anyone to get into whats left of this car that is our Constitutional Republic.

Flame away if you must but from where I live, this is a winner

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Sounds like a good idea to research. Stir the pot a bit (or a lot.) erronis May 10 #1
Funny how every time "disaffected former" Republicans throw themselves into 3rd party efforts, tanyev May 10 #2
Oh, fuck them. DavidDvorkin May 10 #3
Dems can't win BaronChocula May 10 #4
We have to learn the power of fear JustAnotherGen May 10 #17
I think the nazi idea of being humane as weak is, well, ananda May 10 #18
A Cooperacy! BaronChocula May 11 #26
Right on ananda May 11 #27
"oppression is disguised as part of the social fabric that is taken for granted as the best way to be.' mdbl May 11 #29
You know what else strikes me. The loss of law and morality. ananda May 11 #37
'Elon knows those computer vote tabulators and we won by alot.' travelingthrulife May 11 #32
Everyone who remembers The New Deal is dead and gone FakeNoose May 11 #36
You are so right BaronChocula May 11 #38
Yup, it's No Labels redux Fiendish Thingy May 10 #5
They can eff right off. FalloutShelter May 10 #6
true 3rd party efforts haven't really worked enough, and prior 3rd party efforts were mainly by the repug party SWBTATTReg May 10 #7
A strong 3rd party in Congress would be able to steer the vote on bills up for passage. patphil May 10 #8
Not this stupid shit again JBTaurus83 May 10 #9
Exactly! More republican shit...let's see who's behind this...Russia, jill stein, muskrat? Or all of them PortTack May 11 #33
A really bad idea. love_katz May 10 #10
Part of me wants to party, part of me wants a lobotomy... littlemissmartypants May 10 #11
Voters should vote Democrats in for more than two terms with a super majority to see what can really be done! chowder66 May 10 #12
There is no dispute I would argue that Independents and people who don't participate in general are where it's at for us Cheezoholic May 10 #13
Fuck that shit! ☝️👌👉 💩 Oopsie Daisy May 10 #14
These are always astro-turf movements designed to benefit republicans PSPS May 10 #15
Here we go again. Because of the horrible job the Republicans are doing Buddyzbuddy May 10 #16
The "rational middle" rears its mythological head. hay rick May 10 #19
There is no more "middle" in the middle Bluetus May 11 #20
Just another flavor of "both-sidesism". LudwigPastorius May 11 #21
F*ck them. BadgerMom May 11 #22
Begin and end with FDR. tirebiter May 11 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author tirebiter May 11 #24
Centrists can't win anymore paulkienitz May 11 #25
Oh, just call it the Let's Scapegoat Democrats (LSD) movement. betsuni May 11 #28
Interesting that the so-called "focus group" did not call the "r's" the niyad May 11 #30
I see the libertarians have not gotten any smarter. travelingthrulife May 11 #31
Yeah this is just what we need (sarcasm) thumper2547 May 11 #34
Sounds more like Quanto Magnus May 11 #35
Not Left not Right but Forward airplaneman May 11 #39
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