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29. It should have more Senators too, and some of the founders knew it.

Sat Jun 7, 2025, 03:56 PM

Jun 7

In Federalist Paper No. 22, Alexander Hamilton wrote “Every idea of proportion and every rule of fair representation conspire to condemn a principle, which gives to Rhode Island an equal weight in the scale of power with Massachusetts, or Connecticut, or New York… Its operation contradicts the fundamental maxim of republican government, which requires that the sense of the majority should prevail"

Others such as James Madison and George Washington agreed, but compromised with the smaller states.

Equal distribution of Senators dilutes the power of population centers and skews it toward smaller or more rural states. This is one of the biggest factors giving the Republican Party an unfair advantage. Ask them. They love it.

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Newsom floats withholding federal taxes as Trump threatens California [View all] highplainsdem Jun 6 OP

I'm starting to think secession shouldn't be off table. Of course, would have to move from my rube red state. Silent Type Jun 6 #1

Trump is trying to start a civil war it looks like. Irish_Dem Jun 7 #26

Aren't those taxes paid by individual taxpayers to the US Treasury? MichMan Jun 6 #2

Not all - there are federal excise taxes on alcoholic beverages for example DBoon Jun 7 #3

and paying into the CA system (however that works?) stopdiggin Jun 7 #8

There could be an escrow account for us Tumbulu Jun 7 #4

which would disallow the federal gov from presenting me with the bill? stopdiggin Jun 7 #7

In time, yes Tumbulu Jun 7 #14

agree with about 90% stopdiggin Jun 7 #17

About damned time! flying-skeleton Jun 7 #5

"Maybe it's time to cut that off" could be a campaign slogan. PermatexNo.2 Jun 7 #6

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Jun 7 #22

Thanks. I'll try to behave. Or, failing that, at least try to use good grammar and punctuation. PermatexNo.2 Jun 8 #34

great talking point! but as a practical matter ... stopdiggin Jun 7 #9

California can make a case for "No taxation without Representation" thought crime Jun 7 #10

That would mean that a Wyoming taxpayer would pay $66 dollars in income taxes for every $1 a California resident pays MichMan Jun 7 #12

No, that would be Absurd. And Wyoming having the same level of representation as CA is just as Absurd. thought crime Jun 7 #16

the point (fairly obviously) - is that 'no taxation without representation' stopdiggin Jun 7 #18

Have you ever heard the slogan "no taxation without representation"? thought crime Jun 7 #20

and my post pointed to the fact that your quote stopdiggin Jun 7 #21

Happens all the time with city income taxes MichMan Jun 7 #25

CA has a LOT more Reps in the House. The founders worked out a reasonable balance Attilatheblond Jun 7 #28

It should have more Senators too, and some of the founders knew it. thought crime Jun 7 #29

Ah, yes, tranny of the majority. Nope that isn't a good way to govern. Attilatheblond Jun 7 #30

The Tyranny of the Majority is a problem. thought crime Jun 8 #33

We have 2 legislative bodies. One by population and one where all states have two members Attilatheblond Jun 8 #35

But they are represented. Igel Jun 7 #24

Newsom's argument also falls flat if you take it down to a local level MichMan Jun 7 #27

What would Gov Newsom's response be if for example Beverly Hills and Bel Air decided to withhold all their state taxes? MichMan Jun 7 #11

So you support Taco cutting off services to California? Scrivener7 Jun 7 #32

""Maybe it's time to cut that off," he added." Maybe just "redirect" the tax money to areas tfg cut? nt mitch96 Jun 7 #13

Sounds like a plan! Fla Dem Jun 7 #15

Yup, just maybe time, Newsom. republianmushroom Jun 7 #19

I did not think he was speaking about income tax. quaint Jun 7 #23

Seems like Rebl2 Jun 7 #31

Do it orangecrush Jun 8 #36