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TomSlick

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42. I have conflicting thoughts (as you might expect from a lawyer).
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 07:53 PM
Jun 27

Having read the opinions (no small feat), I think the case is wrongly decided buy there is an upside.

Courts will generally go to some lengths in the interests of "judicial economy." Today's ruling ensures that cases must be brought in every federal court district seeking a ruling that the 14th Amendment means what is clearly says.

What SCOTUS should have done (in my opinion) is to look to the likelihood of Trump's executive order being upheld on the merits and short-stopped the piecemeal approach in this case. Any literate person can understand what "All persons born or naturalized in the United States" means. It is a waste of judicial time to make every district court deal with this.

On the upside, our side of the political spectrum railed against federal courts in red states entering nation-wide injunctions during President Biden's administration. Those injunctions are now at least suspect if not invalid beyond the district in which they were entered.

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Link is to an unrelated story. Ocelot II Jun 27 #1
Thanks and fixed! BumRushDaShow Jun 27 #2
+1. On positive side, we aren't bound by 5th Circuit, arguably most right-wing federal appellate court in the country. Silent Type Jun 27 #3
Beat me to it - I just finished reading the opinion, and although it's a problem Ocelot II Jun 27 #5
I thought SCOTUS role was the defend the Constitution Freddie Jun 27 #4
The case wasn't really about the Constitution at all. Ocelot II Jun 27 #6
This was a case about how far a Judges powers extended. cstanleytech Jun 27 #7
How would his son's citizenship be a problem? Trump , who is the father, is a citizen so his son is also. Srkdqltr Jun 27 #14
She didn't become a citizen until after he was born thus Barron isn't a full citizen even if he was born here. cstanleytech Jun 27 #34
Tump was a citizen; nothing happens to Barron. Callie1979 Jun 27 #36
Depends on who Trump claims isn't a citizen. cstanleytech Jun 27 #37
As he wants it; one parent has to be a citizen. Callie1979 Jun 27 #38
To bad for him that the Constitution doesn't say that. cstanleytech Jun 27 #40
Its always been a req that one parent has to be a USC purple_haze Jun 27 #41
Felon TraitorTrump is the daddy and granddaddy of many anchor babies Miami Blue Jun 27 #8
This is a slur against immigrants and their child born in America. N/T Jacson6 Jun 27 #12
Jacson6, yup you got that right 💪🏻 Miami Blue Jun 27 #18
Trump loves to use that slur, but he did not create it. ShazzieB Jun 27 #23
Source? ShazzieB Jun 27 #17
How come you are unaware of this information? Miami Blue Jun 27 #19
I still don't see a link to a source. ShazzieB Jun 27 #24
Hola ShazzieB, find below the information Miami Blue Jun 27 #43
Trump Little Moscow as it is known here in Miami Miami Blue Jun 27 #44
Does this mean that the states who are not in the 5th Circuits jurisdiction can ignore the 5th Circuits national in2herbs Jun 27 #9
Yup. Sauce for the gander and all that. Ocelot II Jun 27 #10
That was my reaction as well as I heard it reported on NPR Bohunk68 Jun 27 #26
So the injunction is still in effect for 22 SARose Jun 27 #11
There is no longer a "universal" injunction BumRushDaShow Jun 27 #16
I guess individual states, at the behest of the president, can now nullify the Constitution as long as... LudwigPastorius Jun 27 #13
Sotomayor: "travesty for the rule of the law"; Brown Jackson: "existential threat to the rule of law" muriel_volestrangler Jun 27 #15
What? mdbl Jun 27 #20
I think she was refering to not being able to strike it down across the country Polybius Jun 27 #25
Has this been a precedent set before? mdbl Jun 27 #30
There are an unprecedented number of cases that have been filed related to 45's nonsense BumRushDaShow Jun 27 #33
These 6 POS's are now on board to continue the further chipping away of the Constitution.......... turbinetree Jun 27 #21
Wow! This is the Trump version of the Reichstag fire. Kablooie Jun 27 #22
A couple of Class Action lawsuits have already been filed to get around this ruling LetMyPeopleVote Jun 27 #27
SCOTUS declares that each state may interpret the Constitution differently RainCaster Jun 27 #28
We definitely need to stop treating the idea like an impossibility or a joke. After all, fascists never believe Karasu Jun 27 #31
I'm so angry. choie Jun 27 #29
Who is always running to the 5th Circuit, Deminpenn Jun 27 #32
Exactly. BumRushDaShow Jun 27 #35
If I understand it, he is now King. An Executive Order is law of the nation.... JohnnyRingo Jun 27 #39
I have conflicting thoughts (as you might expect from a lawyer). TomSlick Jun 27 #42
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