Oh, the best laid plans

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5. They are great for places with lots of shade & nothing else grows.

The thing is they can get enormous and take over a space & crowd out other plants. One great point for them, humming birds and bees love the red ones! Thats why we keep great big patches of these in our yard, even though we usually have to trim them because they will overgrow the driveway by the end of the summer. Hope they grow great for you too. Just so you know, they do die during the winter, but cut them down to near the ground and they will come back every spring.