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marylandblue

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31. Yeah conflating criticism with intolerance is a problem and an insult

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Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:48 AM

Nov 2018

to those who died for their religion or lack of religion.

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Two views on theism: [View all] guillaumeb Nov 2018 OP

I'm a Buddhist vlyons Nov 2018 #1

I understand your belief, and respect it. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #2

Whatever your beliefs are don't invalidate my confidence in Buddha's teachings vlyons Nov 2018 #4

Excellent advice. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #5

But is that how it should be? Spending so much time with people you work with Doodley Nov 2018 #8

My job description was union representative, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #15

I think Einstein was right. JNelson6563 Nov 2018 #3

Agreed. If we truly recognize out limitations, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #6

One is self-righteous and the other humble. These attitudes can be held by theists and atheists. Doodley Nov 2018 #7

We all see it. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #16

I just want someone something to thank. violetpastille Nov 2018 #9

A feral kid. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #17

you can be thankful Brainstormy Nov 2018 #27

Two points of view from two highly intelligent men. MineralMan Nov 2018 #10

Both were intelligent. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #18

Clearly, you are not very familiar with Russell. MineralMan Nov 2018 #34

Gil knows all he needs to know from those two quotes. Mariana Nov 2018 #48

Personally, I believe religion is but a warped interpretation/expression of humility. Comatose Sphagetti Nov 2018 #11

Even more so during his time Major Nikon Nov 2018 #13

Another disciple of Russell? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #20

My limitation is people will not be quoting me 50 years after my death Major Nikon Nov 2018 #24

As I thought. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #41

Says the guy who defends the RCC child rapists and their enablers Major Nikon Nov 2018 #62

More misreading on your part. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #85

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #89

Your other gift on display. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #91

Tell us again how deism is another form of theism Major Nikon Nov 2018 #94

Jesus f'ing Christ do you have a clue who Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #35

Wait, what? You mean none of us here in the Religion Group is MineralMan Nov 2018 #36

Well, one frequent poster seems to feel qualified Mariana Nov 2018 #51

The shadow cast, however, is narrow and scarcely dims MineralMan Nov 2018 #99

That tiny shadow appears to be distinctly troll-shaped. nt. Mariana Nov 2018 #100

Hmm... MineralMan Nov 2018 #101

Can humanity break the bonds of what makes us human? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #19

I strongly believe that you should leave off putting people MineralMan Nov 2018 #39

The irony that guilt by association works both ways is lost on that one Major Nikon Nov 2018 #64

Yet another brilliant faceplant Major Nikon Nov 2018 #12

You'll find no consistency where there is no understanding. MineralMan Nov 2018 #14

Another disciple of Russell. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #22

I'm doing neither, of course. MineralMan Nov 2018 #32

What's consistent is the baiting OP Major Nikon Nov 2018 #25

You should really stay with your gif(t). guillaumeb Nov 2018 #21

Meanwhile you'll stay with zero substance replies Major Nikon Nov 2018 #23

Because you do not understand something does not make it nonsense. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #45

Undoubtedly your canned responses are so deep intellectually nobody else could understand Major Nikon Nov 2018 #63

You have convinced yourself, yes. MineralMan Nov 2018 #69

And you should avoid giving advice to others, I think. MineralMan Nov 2018 #40

Was this intended for yourself? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #42

Wow! A clever rework of the tired ol' "I'm rubber, you're glue line" Major Nikon Nov 2018 #65

LOL! MineralMan Nov 2018 #71

Also, he's still pretending that criticism is intolerance. Mariana Nov 2018 #28

About as strong as insisting deists are really theists Major Nikon Nov 2018 #29

Yeah conflating criticism with intolerance is a problem and an insult marylandblue Nov 2018 #31

The quote: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #46

It may be name calling but it is not "intolerance" marylandblue Nov 2018 #56

It is personal intolerance, if expressed privately, guillaumeb Nov 2018 #58

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #67

Free speech is only free if it can be public marylandblue Nov 2018 #76

Gil's definition of intolerance: Mariana Nov 2018 #77

A bit problematic for one who often contradicts himself Major Nikon Nov 2018 #79

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #66

Your insight amazes. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #86

Bertrand Russell said and wrote many excellent ideas. MineralMan Nov 2018 #33

And what does this single quote demonstrate? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #47

We can also disagree that it's unproveable and still share progressive politics nt marylandblue Nov 2018 #26

Russell's dismantling of believers ideology edhopper Nov 2018 #30

Russel's intolerance for theists is well known. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #43

He was "intolerant" edhopper Nov 2018 #52

Here is just one of his many pronouncements on religion: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #54

Contempt is not intolerance marylandblue Nov 2018 #57

It is publicly expressed contempt and it leads and is intended to lead to intolerance. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #59

Yes it borders on BLASPHEMY Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #61

Another example of conflating an attack on a belief as an attack of a person Major Nikon Nov 2018 #72

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #70

It's intended to criticize religion marylandblue Nov 2018 #75

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #68

It's interesting that you mention Russell and Einstein in the same post. MineralMan Nov 2018 #37

The only thing that seems to matter is he is an atheist Major Nikon Nov 2018 #81

essential unprovability Cartoonist Nov 2018 #38

Neither position is provable. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #44

Here is a provable statement Cartoonist Nov 2018 #49

No, it is an unproven and unprovable assertion. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #50

So you are saying there is proof edhopper Nov 2018 #53

No, I said that Cartoonists' assertion is only that. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #55

His statement edhopper Nov 2018 #60

Reeks of desperation Major Nikon Nov 2018 #74

The statement is unprovable. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #84

No edhopper Nov 2018 #88

Yes. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #96

you don't understand how edhopper Nov 2018 #97

Where is the proof? /nt tonedevil Nov 2018 #104

You've admitted there is no proof marylandblue Nov 2018 #95

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #80

You are making a logic error marylandblue Nov 2018 #83

Gil has a tendency to contradict himself Major Nikon Nov 2018 #106

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #73

Einstein had no use or respect for theism Major Nikon Nov 2018 #78

What appears to be happening is a version of "proof-texting" MineralMan Nov 2018 #82

Did you actually read the Einstein quote that is a part of this OP? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #87

Yes. What he meant had nothing to do with theism. Major Nikon Nov 2018 #90

I asked what you think he meant. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #92

Bullshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #93

Did you read the very real einstien quote that you are responding to? Lordquinton Nov 2018 #105

I asked the same question and predicted he would never answer it Major Nikon Nov 2018 #107

You speak in the OP of "both sides".. Permanut Nov 2018 #98

To accuse Bertrand Russell of "extreme intolerance" is ridiculous... malchickiwick Nov 2018 #102

Actually, I doubt if he knows much about Bertrand Russell. MineralMan Nov 2018 #103

Early Russell: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #108