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TheMastersNemesis

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22. Mores In Context
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 11:28 PM
Feb 2012

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What is interesting about what is going on today is how much has changed for women and also how little has changed. The attitude of your co worker most likely reflects the same attitudes men have had throughout human history when it comes to how women are treated. Your friend fundamentally has the same attitude as a male might have had during the Dark Ages or at any time in history. Women were just lesser beings whose only purpose was to serve the interests of men.

Women have made great strides in the modern era in more developed countries and they have actually are very far behind in less developed countries. In very conservative Islamic countries and countries dominated by tribal societies women are barely visible in that political arena. They are only slaves basically and expendable on the one hand, yet they are also protected like male elks protecting their harems. Women are valued and devalued at the same time. Actually you can see elements of that even in the modern society.

In theater it is important to understand the make up of the society when the play was written. The Greek character Cassandra was a prophetress who foretold about bad future events. She was a scary and threatening enigma. Greek males of that era saw women as mysterious even threatening beings. Women's intuition was little understood and seen as almost godlike. Greek men probably did not understand how women could know certain things that seemed to come from thin air. There was no psychology then. Attitudes were colored by logic and speculation and myth. Back then women were portrayed as having this foreboding insight. s

When you get to Shakespeare women have all sorts of roles. One of the most notable quotes from Shakespeare is "There is nothing worse than a woman scorned." Women today need to make that quote come true in the context fighting for their rights in all aspects of the 21st century.

Finally based on your post I assume that you are still fairly young and work in a diverse work place. I have very little sense of where the men of your generation are. In many ways I see younger men as moving backward in time when it comes to their attitude toward women.

I apologize for being so scattered. We simply had to study all aspects of every society where a play was written before we could understand the characters in a play or the play itself. It is only now as I am older just turning 68 that I really understand how immense the challenge was cover all the material we had to cover. Things pop up now in this latest brouhaha over womens' rights.
As I said earlier from my perspective it is absolutely amazing how much has changed in relation to how women are being treated and how little things have changed even over 3000 years of knowable human history.



Good luck.

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Yes; Yes; could be. Depends on the circumstances. elleng Feb 2012 #1
clarification, please... are you answering in order? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #3
In order: elleng Feb 2012 #13
ok. thanks Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #14
Is it just another way to dismiss a female debate? PDJane Feb 2012 #2
thank you for the comment. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #4
I've seen this comment from males Warpy Feb 2012 #5
thank you for the comment Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #8
"Tone argument" Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #6
thank you for the link and the quote. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #10
Different rhetorical styles appeal to different people. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #7
thank you for the comment. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #11
You're welcome. Thanks for the thread. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #21
Anger Is Justified TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #9
ok...question for clarification Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #12
Needs No Context TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #17
thank you very much for a well reasoned and thoughtful reply and the history of Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #18
Addendum Clarification. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #19
yes, and you are explaining how theatre works within the confines of reflecting Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #20
Mores In Context TheMastersNemesis Feb 2012 #22
That depends ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #15
refer to comment #9 (and my reply #12) on this thread, please -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #16
I would take that comment as an invitation to respond with a kick to the groin. laconicsax Feb 2012 #23
thank you for the comment. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #28
Depends on the context. JoeyT Feb 2012 #24
thank you for the comment Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #29
I think context really is important and here's why justiceischeap Feb 2012 #25
it was the second. thanks Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #26
"You'd be angry too if you were held to a completely different standard because of your gender." CrispyQ Feb 2012 #27
thank you for the comment Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #30
The problem is that women are not supposed to get angry Nikia Feb 2012 #31
Often, it is. gkhouston Feb 2012 #32
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