Gun Control Reform Activism

Crepuscular

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42. Is this a test?

Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:47 PM

Mar 2013

I've already indicated that I've supported regulations that limit lead risk such as steel shot regulations and lead bullet restrictions in parts of California, so clearly I support some lead restrictions. As far as "safe levels", as long as there is some peer reviewed, published scientific research used to establish that criteria , then I would probably be supportive of further restrictions. But the concerns would have to be supported by data, not just with a vague assertion that lead is harmful, ergo restrictions are needed.

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Don't forget to talk about the harm of shooting to health and the environment [View all] CreekDog Mar 2013 OP

That's why there are shooting ranges. Remmah2 Mar 2013 #1

At shooting ranges, why can't people just get bullets there and not need to bring them in? graham4anything Mar 2013 #2

I custom reload my own ammunition. Remmah2 Mar 2013 #3

But you would not need them.And for sport, people used to have gladiator fights in arenas graham4anything Mar 2013 #4

Because selfish people want their stuff. mwrguy Mar 2013 #6

you were banned CreekDog Mar 2015 #78

Lack of facilities in most cases. ManiacJoe Mar 2013 #9

seems like a business opportunity. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #66

Because a lot of shooting ranges are not set up for that. Travis_0004 Mar 2013 #13

Easy enough. Have the Mayors against Bullets in the streets buy all the gun stores graham4anything Mar 2013 #14

that you're saying it can be done cleanly doesn't mean that it is done cleanly CreekDog Mar 2013 #7

you're posting this here to continue your aggressive assault on proposed gun control measures? CreekDog Mar 2013 #8

Actually I was presenting my personal experience which was counter to the broad brushOP assumptions. Remmah2 Mar 2013 #11

you were trying to argue that shooting is not harmful to the environment nor people CreekDog Mar 2013 #12

Property damage, poaching, murdered pets Kolesar Mar 2013 #5

Accuracy Crepuscular Mar 2013 #10

It is accurate, lead in the environment from guns has effected waterfowl in many places CreekDog Mar 2013 #15

Just pointing out that accuracy is important if you want to convince anyone Crepuscular Mar 2013 #16

what you've written, now twice, is sophisticated propaganda CreekDog Mar 2013 #17

On the contrary Crepuscular Mar 2013 #18

on the contrary, you lied about lead shot being banned CreekDog Mar 2013 #19

Lied? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #22

Here's your post associating an AWB and supporters with wanting to get rid of all guns, everywhere CreekDog Mar 2013 #20

That post does nothing of the kind Crepuscular Mar 2013 #27

The ban on lead ammo in condor areas hasn't worked as well as hoped ellisonz Mar 2013 #21

Why would you presume that? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #23

Good ellisonz Mar 2013 #24

no, he thinks we are "gun grabbers" who want to ban all firearms from private ownership CreekDog Mar 2013 #26

Um, no Crepuscular Mar 2013 #30

you were the one who brought up the people who want to ban all private firearm ownership CreekDog Mar 2013 #32

It depends Crepuscular Mar 2013 #28

Not so much ellisonz Mar 2013 #29

In generalized terms? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #31

Some? ellisonz Mar 2013 #34

Not trying to debate the need for gun control Crepuscular Mar 2013 #37

This is very much the forum for such discussions. ellisonz Mar 2013 #38

Really? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #39

Also from the SOP: ellisonz Mar 2013 #40

this kind of crap is how the Gun and RKBA group works CreekDog Mar 2013 #33

I proudly no longer have the Gungeon as my favorite group ellisonz Mar 2013 #35

only for threatened species? CreekDog Mar 2013 #25

Again Crepuscular Mar 2013 #36

then you support restrictions on lead into the environment from firearms CreekDog Mar 2013 #41

Is this a test? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #42

you realize there is lead criteria already in environmental water quality standards CreekDog Mar 2013 #43

There are also standards established for particulate lead in air quality Crepuscular Mar 2013 #44

do you plan to fight legally for more and more peer review, more studies CreekDog Mar 2013 #45

As with any government regulation. Crepuscular Mar 2013 #46

i asked you a question and you responded with some nonsense strawman about something else CreekDog Mar 2013 #47

Strawman? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #49

you ruined this thread and turned it into your own concern CreekDog Mar 2013 #48

Hey, I just answered the questions asked of me. Crepuscular Mar 2013 #51

you came here to oppose period CreekDog Mar 2013 #52

I came here Crepuscular Mar 2013 #53

you use the term "gun grabber"? CreekDog Mar 2013 #54

Context, my friend. Crepuscular Mar 2013 #56

Climate change denial propaganda, applied to denying lead pollution from guns CreekDog Mar 2013 #57

Wow! Crepuscular Mar 2013 #58

it is not my job to prove to you what is widely studied and understood CreekDog Mar 2013 #59

Actually, Crepuscular Mar 2013 #60

no it's not my job to do a literature review for you CreekDog Mar 2013 #61

Yes, it is your job to provide evidence to support your claims Crepuscular Mar 2013 #62

oh lead pollution is equivalent of an "Elvis sighting"? CreekDog Mar 2013 #63

Lead pollution from a variety of sources is documented Crepuscular Mar 2013 #64

i realize that you became interested in the gun issue at DU only after Newtown CreekDog Mar 2013 #65

Apparently you are done with the lead pollution issue Crepuscular Mar 2013 #67

i guess photography gets boring after a while CreekDog Mar 2013 #68

Guess you are not a photographer then... Crepuscular Mar 2013 #69

well you have a point, i mean, it seems to have been more interesting than the 2012 election CreekDog Mar 2013 #70

Why would you presume that it's not interesting at all now? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #71

Oy Vey (Blocked) ! ellisonz Mar 2013 #72

LOL! CreekDog Mar 2013 #75

because during the most fascinating time at DU, the Obama-Romney election... CreekDog Mar 2013 #73

I saw what you did there. BainsBane Mar 2013 #76

In other words: "I'm a big gun control advocate! Really! I really am!" DanTex Mar 2013 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author Kali Mar 2013 #55

SWANS DYING OF LEAD POISONING IN WASHINGTON STATE AND BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA freshwest Mar 2013 #74

kick, nt Electric Monk Mar 2015 #77

That's one method and very effective unless one is diligent at staying on topic. nt flamin lib Mar 2015 #79