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Jedi Guy

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29. That's a partial quote from Vance.

Reply to madashelltoo (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:26 AM

Jun 23

The full quote was, "We are not at war with Iran. We are at war with Iran's nuclear program."

And that, friends, is what we call a distinction without a difference. No one with two brain cells to rub together is buying what he's selling, least of all the Iranians.

No formal declaration of war has been made, true enough, but for all practical purposes Iran is now at war with Israel and the US.

If that bloated sack of guts had honored the agreement Obama made, none of this would be happening. This was a foregone conclusion the moment he scrapped that agreement, and now the Iranians have every reason to believe the US will renege on any future agreement, as does every other nation.

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"We're not at war with Iran," says Vance. [View all] madashelltoo Jun 22 OP

We can be sure Iran thinks we're at war with Iran Ocelot II Jun 22 #1

I'm not even certain what's going on... Hugin Jun 22 #8

You can't believe anything he says. This entire administration is a bunch of shameless liars. surfered Jun 22 #2

Iran already voted to close the Strait of Hormuz - TBF Jun 22 #3

I had to look up the consequence's of their action.. sheshe2 Jun 22 #5

I suspect that the Iranian-backed Houthis are going to get weapons upgrades Vogon_Glory Jun 22 #7

Thanks for the highlight, sheshe2. Hugin Jun 22 #9

You are very welcome, Hugin. sheshe2 Jun 22 #18

seems like it always comes down to geography stillcool Jun 22 #13

exactly sheshe2 Jun 22 #22

United States large military bases in Qatar and Bahrain and CENTCOM located within the Straits of Hormuz. PufPuf23 Jun 22 #21

Either Iran or Iraq or BOTH sought to close the strait during their Jack Valentino Jun 22 #24

Yes - I don't think they've ever actually closed it TBF Jun 25 #30

I doubt that Iran would agree. nt avebury Jun 22 #4

Two choke points now. roamer65 Jun 22 #6

Yup. I also mentioned the Houthis and Red Sea shipping Vogon_Glory Jun 22 #15

That's two pay grades above their intellect. roamer65 Jun 22 #19

To be fair, Trump wantd to bomb his allies too Johonny Jun 22 #10

They probably want to bomb blue states too stillcool Jun 22 #11

He seems to be playing 'the good cop' thing Attilatheblond Jun 22 #12

But Iran is at war with you. Swede Jun 22 #14

We are at war with inanimate objects. milestogo Jun 22 #16

Inanimate objects leftwingnut1 Jun 23 #27

We weren't at war with Japan at Pearl Harbor SCantiGOP Jun 23 #28

If I have all these bombs, why can't I use them? tavernier Jun 22 #17

Wasn't he referring to nuclear weapons? Dave says Jun 22 #20

YES, he WAS.... although I can't remember who he wanted to use them on--- Jack Valentino Jun 22 #25

This was a clearcut act of war against Iran. People aren't as stupid as he thinks. David__77 Jun 22 #23

When Trump iies Charmin One Jun 22 #26

That's a partial quote from Vance. Jedi Guy Jun 23 #29