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markodochartaigh

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32. First of all,
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:00 PM
Jul 1

about one third of the population couldn't be bothered to vote against a known authoritarian Strong Leader. As long as they get their hamberders and sportsball they really don't care. The authoritarian Republicans just need to make sure that there are enough hamberders and sportsball to satisfy them until the system is completely rigged by gerrymandering and disenfranchisement.

Of the two thirds who do care one way or the other at this point, almost half do not want the US to become an authoritarian state.

But about one third really do want an authoritarian state, whether it is a White nationalist state, a corporatocracy run by our oiligarchs, a theocracy run of, by, and for, religious leaders, or they just want a Strong Leader in charge.

Of this third about 80% are authoritarian followers and about 20% are authoritarian leaders. Trump's actions have generally had about an 80% approval rate among Republicans. After the failed coup attempt his approval dropped to about 40%, but when it became obvious that he wasn't going to be held accountable it rose to its baseline. About 20% of Republicans don't like Trump, either because he is a buffoon, because he is a liability to the party, or because he wants to muscle in on their profits. But that 20% is willing to go along with Trump because he is necessary for them to remain in power, and now, out of fear, physical and electoral.

It is very difficult for many people who live in blue areas, who are upper or upper-middle class, well-educated, who know corporate Republicans from social and business organizations to believe just how many extreme right-wing people there are across the country, or how right-wing these people are. But it is probably a waste of time to argue about numbers when we are so close to the precipice. Surely we can all agree that need to act is dire.

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We are losing [View all] WSHazel Jul 1 OP
Nope................... Lovie777 Jul 1 #1
That's one opinion -misanthroptimist Jul 1 #2
Not a good try. Kingofalldems Jul 1 #3
You think everything is great? iemanja Jul 2 #37
Depressing ChazII Jul 1 #4
My post is an assessment, not a concession WSHazel Jul 1 #8
The Democrats need to do more than just opposing Trump. everyonematters Jul 1 #5
We need to stop blaming the "leadership" WSHazel Jul 1 #15
What is the economic agenda of the Democratic Party? Warren is not in the leadership. Jeffries and Schumer are. everyonematters Jul 1 #19
They need to do something like the Contract with America. writerJT Jul 1 #25
Agree. everyonematters Jul 1 #28
Harris had piles of good policies WSHazel Jul 1 #29
Harris couldn't and didn't communicate Melon Jul 2 #55
lol bigtree Jul 2 #57
Have you listened to Trump? WSHazel Jul 2 #59
I'm well aware of Trump. Melon Jul 2 #60
Perhaps you weren't paying attention. Understandable as Republican lies are promoted by media emulatorloo Jul 2 #61
That is hogwash... PunkinPi Jul 3 #65
The Democratic Party right now is the most rudderless it has been in my entire life. Midwestern Democrat Jul 1 #30
You can't stop fascism with "a plan". Initech Jul 1 #33
Perfection is the enemy bottomofthehill Jul 1 #6
I can live with a Democratic Socialist in certain positions WSHazel Jul 1 #9
When AOC first appeared, she was treated much like Mamdani thought crime Jul 2 #43
Mamdani is not AOC WSHazel Jul 2 #44
And AOC endorses Mamdani thought crime Jul 2 #47
NYC is a rich city WSHazel Jul 2 #48
They're NOT gonna leave. Trust me. DinahMoeHum Jul 2 #54
Do you support trickle-down economics? thought crime Jul 2 #62
I disagree with your framing WSHazel Jul 2 #63
You have some good ideas. thought crime Jul 3 #64
It isn't just the candidates, it's the agenda thought crime Jul 2 #42
Where is the Democratic Party gaining? WSHazel Jul 2 #53
We chase after the working class who want their Emile Jul 2 #56
Show me any evidence that matters WSHazel Jul 2 #58
There haven't been many elections but we have been winning JI7 Jul 1 #7
Post removed Post removed Jul 1 #10
I think the big place we are losing is in the media progressoid Jul 1 #11
That is part of it WSHazel Jul 1 #12
Exactly! "They just don't care." That's the key 0rganism Jul 1 #31
Luckily, most folks don't watch the MSM these days (according to polls). I get news from the BBC and other streamers. wcmagumba Jul 1 #27
Yeah, cause reality is just grand. iemanja Jul 2 #39
yeah, yeah....sky is falling democratsruletheday Jul 1 #13
Yes, let's ignore what's going on iemanja Jul 2 #40
I don't disagree. edhopper Jul 1 #14
Fear talk won't help us now. Glad you're waking up to the moral depravity of this reality, though. ancianita Jul 1 #16
I have been awake the whole time WSHazel Jul 1 #17
Where money can be made & people can be bought, nothing is a guardrail, including the "market." ancianita Jul 1 #18
Put a pin in this point WSHazel Jul 1 #23
45% kwolf68 Jul 1 #20
Nate Silver WSHazel Jul 1 #22
First of all, markodochartaigh Jul 1 #32
I think most people if something doesn't Tree Lady Jul 1 #21
Trump crows about how many he is deporting, he doesnt crow "im killing America's science infrastructure" Demovictory9 Jul 1 #35
that happens when you hand the entire governement over to psychopaths Skittles Jul 1 #24
I post JustAnotherGen Jul 1 #26
They support deportations, removal of DEI. Hurti..they dond understand that trump is destroying Science, democracy, etc Demovictory9 Jul 1 #34
"Remember those halcyon days when Democrats weren't yet disappeared off the street and sent to New Andersonville?" LudwigPastorius Jul 1 #36
Bye bye orangecrush Jul 2 #38
The usa will never in my lifetime quakerboy Jul 2 #41
The lies go along way! imanamerican63 Jul 2 #45
The Failure of Centrism Emile Jul 2 #46
Post removed Post removed Jul 2 #49
Good morning Emile Jul 2 #50
That cartoon needs updating TommyT139 Jul 2 #51
LOL 😂 Emile Jul 2 #52
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