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lapucelle

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Mon Sep 22, 2025, 08:17 AM Sep 22

What exactly happened in the Senate with the Charlie Kirk Day resolution [View all]

I've posted a version of this at least a dozen times in the past few days in an effort to push back against the inaccurate "the Senate voted unanimously to commemorate a racist troll with a special day" rage bait that has appeared everywhere, including on DU.

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Here's what happened on the Senate floor:

Rick Scott asked for unanimous consent to proceed with the consideration of his Charlie Kirk Day resolution. No one objected, so consideration of the resolution proceeded.

Why didn't a Democrat object and force a vote on the motion? Here's a possible answer: It could well have been that there wasn't a single Democrat on the Senate floor. What leads to that conclusion? The record shows that it is likely that a quorum wasn't present.

That means that either all of the Democrats and some of the Republicans were not in the chamber or that some Democrats and some Republicans were not there. Either way, at least 51 senators appear to have skipped the shit show.

Senate rules presume a quorum in legislative session. In other words, "we do have a quorum" is the default setting.

The roll gets called only if a senator makes a motion "suggesting the absence of quorum". That motion leads to a roll call as the initial step to a quorum call to the absent senators.

If a motion to rescind the quorum call (i.e. stop the roll call to see if at least 51 senators are there) is passed by unanimous consent, the issue of whether or not there's a quorum goes back to its default setting, i.e. the presumption that a quorum is present.

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What makes it likely to surmise that there was no quorum?

- Scott (R) ("notwithstanding rule XXII" ) was careful not to invoke cloture.

- At the end of his ridiculous speech, Tuberville (R), suggested the absence of a quorum, and a roll call was ordered and initiated

- The roll call was stopped when Lankford (R) asked for unanimous consent for the quorum call to be rescinded.

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The resolution itself was "approved" by a voice vote of those present in the chamber.

Who do we know with certainty was actually there? Only the three Republicans on the record.

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From the Congressional Record:

Mr. SCOTT of Florida: Mr. President, as if in legislative session and notwithstanding rule XXII, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate proceed to the consideration of S. Res. 403, which was submitted earlier today.

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Mr. Tuberville: I suggest the absence of a quorum.

The PRESIDING OFFICER: The clerk will call the roll.
The senior assistant executive clerk proceeded to call the roll.

Mr. LANKFORD: Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.

The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr.MORENO): Without objection, it is so ordered.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/96-452

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I can't find a procedural reason for Tuberville to have suggested the absence of a quorum (triggering a roll call) other than the fact that the question and partial roll call would become part of the congressional record.

Could it be that MAGA Senators wanted to be able to hold the absence over the heads of Republicans who did not comply? After all, if an additional 48 Republican senators (out of the total of 53) had been on floor, there would have been a quorum. Republicans didn't need a single Democrat to have been present for there to have been a quorum of 51 senators and a roll call vote with everyone's position on the record.

MAGA senators have their party's noncompliance receipts in the form of the congressional record.

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Thank you for explaining what happened. Bob in the Land Sep 22 #1
Ditto this... Alice B. Sep 22 #17
I love it when anyone admits something like Cha Sep 22 #39
Yup *blush* Alice B. Sep 22 #42
I think you did Good! Cha Sep 22 #44
Thank you! Alice B. Sep 23 #46
Thank you for this explanation. I couldn't imagine that Dem senators would vote for, Ocelot II Sep 22 #2
Have the Democrats ever pulled this sweet trick? leftstreet Sep 22 #3
Chuck Schumer used the rare "standing hold on unanimous consent" procedure, as well as blue slip holds lapucelle Sep 22 #7
keeping in mind that humans are fallible, and some more than others, i suggest a simpler explanation unblock Sep 22 #4
Perhaps, but Tuberville has a solid record of devious procedural moves. lapucelle Sep 22 #8
That's not devious. Obnoxious, certainly, but not devious unblock Sep 22 #22
Tuberville "not devious"... Ha! Cha Sep 22 #41
oddly, though, what's an official senate meeting if there's not a quorum? unblock Sep 22 #5
I would imagine that the Senate is in session whenever it's stated on the calendar. lapucelle Sep 22 #38
The article implies there were no dems there unblock Sep 22 #40
The session is on the Senate calendar. N/T lapucelle Sep 23 #45
(Edited) We should verify in the CR about who voted rather than speculate LearnedHand Sep 22 #6
Stop it. Neither Senator Kelly nor Senator Gallegos co-sponsored the resolution. lapucelle Sep 22 #10
Oh you're exactly right and I was looking at the wrong Senate Resolution LearnedHand Sep 22 #13
There were no votes to be recorded Fiendish Thingy Sep 22 #12
The CR will never list the votes because there was no roll call. lapucelle Sep 22 #14
There is no record of a roll call vote because there was no roll call vote. lapucelle Sep 22 #16
If you want to verify by the Congressional Record, here is what the Congressional Record states. lapucelle Sep 22 #18
The Congressional Record does not record who was present Wiz Imp Sep 22 #23
I am a little confused. Katinfl Sep 22 #9
Officially? No, although on October 14, 2025 right wingers will be commemorating. N/T lapucelle Sep 22 #15
The Senate passed resolution declares October 14, 2025 A Day of Remembrance Wiz Imp Sep 22 #25
Thanks for the clarification. Katinfl Sep 22 #28
Yeah, but some clickbait video said "UNANIMOUSLY" in all caps Fiendish Thingy Sep 22 #11
Don't blame this on videos. In fact I don't recall seeing videos declaring this at all. Wiz Imp Sep 22 #27
I think it's worth pointing out the difference between passing unanimously and unanimous consent, but the rest of this tritsofme Sep 22 #19
This was a controversial resolution, and there are folks having a field day with anti-Democratic Party messaging lapucelle Sep 22 #20
This might be the only place it is controversial. tritsofme Sep 22 #21
That's a fair point, but facts are the best ammunition in pushing back lapucelle Sep 22 #24
I believe the Democrats in the Senate Prairie_Seagull Sep 22 #26
That was the House resolution. It was different from the Senate resolution. lapucelle Sep 22 #29
Thanks lapucelle. Prairie_Seagull Sep 22 #30
Not exactly correct. Wiz Imp Sep 22 #31
Thanks Wiz Imp. nt Prairie_Seagull Sep 22 #34
Will there be a public execution for the suspect soon? twodogsbarking Sep 22 #32
At the 46 second mark of this video is the Senate when Tuberville calls for Wiz Imp Sep 22 #33
It sounds like one freaking voice --- Rick Scott's. lapucelle Sep 22 #35
I so appreciate your efforts to set the record straight mcar Sep 22 #36
Thanks. I think Wiz Imp came up with the best receipt of all... lapucelle Sep 22 #37
lol.. ".. the best receipt of all.. " Cha Sep 22 #43
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